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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Random observations:

    Many of the jack-booted thugs are probably ICE folks that aren’t used to dealing with citizens with video cameras.

    This was a strategic error for DHS. They’ll never get the Trump stink off of themselves and they’ll pay for it when the Dems control government again.

    Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?

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    Catseye3
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    #51

    @jon-nyc said in Police State:

    Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?

    What keeps drumming in my head is what he said during the Senate trial: "I always find a way to win."

    I think Trump will do anything to stay in the White House because of what awaits him when his term is done, and I think he doesn't care how he does it.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Larry, I think the weight of Trump’s pannus on your forehead for 4 years is taking its toll.

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      Larry
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      @jon-nyc said in Police State:

      Larry, I think the weight of Trump’s pannus on your forehead for 4 years is taking its toll.

      No Jon, I think you're projecting.

      You said
      "Many of the jack-booted thugs are probably ICE folks that aren’t used to dealing with citizens with video cameras.

      This was a strategic error for DHS. They’ll never get the Trump stink off it they’ll pay for it when the Dems control government again.

      Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?"

      They aren't "Jack booted thugs". Nor are they ICE agents. Both of those things are Leftwing propaganda, and you either suck the stuff up like a hog eating swill or you must don't know any better. They are in fact a well trained division of federal police. The uniforms they wear are the uniforms they always wear, and have worn since their division was established back in ( I think) the 1920s. The uniform has a clearly visible insignia identifying who and what they are.

      As for "paying for it when the dems control government again"... we will ALL pay. The democrat party died. It CANT control government again. If the current Marxist party that has cooped it's name ever gets control of government, this division of federal police will be the least of your problems.

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @jon-nyc said in Police State:

        Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?

        What keeps drumming in my head is what he said during the Senate trial: "I always find a way to win."

        I think Trump will do anything to stay in the White House because of what awaits him when his term is done, and I think he doesn't care how he does it.

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        Larry
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        #53

        @Catseye3 said in Police State:

        @jon-nyc said in Police State:

        Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?

        What keeps drumming in my head is what he said during the Senate trial: "I always find a way to win."

        I think Trump will do anything to stay in the White House because of what awaits him when his term is done, and I think he doesn't care how he does it.

        Then you need to stop thinking. It obviously isn't something you're not very good at.

        Jesus H. Christ.

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          Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #55

            I didn’t but I’m not remotely surprised.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              Let Portland Burn

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG George K

                Let Portland Burn

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                @George-K said in Police State:

                Let Portland Burn

                There's some confusion here. His main thesis is sound; Portland should cope with itself without federal intervention, because "a President sending in a police force to a city is a dangerous precedent that will be expanded upon." That is a view that is objective. But then he gives away his true feelings about Portland when he uses the word "fester"; Portland, it seems, does things of which Mr. Erickson disapproves.

                So which is it, Erick old sock? Let Portland burn to prevent Constitutional infractions to the rest of the country? Or let Portland burn because it's a nasty icky Gemorrah that should get what it deserves?

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?

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                  #58

                  @Jolly said in Police State:

                  Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Jolly said in Police State:

                    Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?

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                    Loki
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                    #59

                    @George-K said in Police State:

                    @Jolly said in Police State:

                    Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?

                    So are they unidentifiable or not. This is a central question.

                    Everybody should be on that case, all sides. What is the truth?

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                      They are identified as Federal officers. Instead of a name tag, they have a number or a pseudonym.

                      Therefore, in case of misconduct, an officer can be identified.

                      I look at it this way...Want proper name badges on the officers? Ban masks on the protesters.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #61

                        @Larry :

                        Actually the guys who illegally arrested that man and threw him in an unmarked van were from Customs and Border Patrol. They (CBP) even released a statement about it. It's true I said ICE, not CBP, but it turns out that CBP are the ones that operate along the border, whereas ICE is more in the interior. So I think the point is a valid one, and moreso with CBP.

                        Also 'jack-booted thugs' was ironic commentary. People who were paying attention to partisan politics in the early 90s will know how that phrase got popularized to begin with and thus understand my usage.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Wall of Mom
                          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-moms-wall-human-shield-protesters/


                          After a Facebook post called for mothers to make a "Wall of Moms," dozens wearing white and helmets attended Saturday. They stood arm-in-arm with each other, forming a barrier between federal agents and demonstrators.


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                            You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              @Horace said in Police State:

                              You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

                              For the moms, certainly. Their getups remind me of the pink shirts women wear for the breast cancer fun runs. That whole scene is disgusting. How can they not take what's happening more seriously?

                              For the other participants, I'm not sure.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

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                                @Horace said in Police State:

                                You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

                                Beats staying at home under quarantine, where all you get to say you did is not spread the virus to anyone. That kind of Facebook virtue signaling has seriously diminished returns.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Catseye3
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Police State:

                                  That kind of Facebook virtue signaling . . .

                                  Good encapsulating phrase!

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    Larry
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                                    Its easy to see why this country is headed down the toilet. Theres an increasing number of people who cant find their own ass. Thats Southern for "lacks all signs of common sense".

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                                      Cut off all Federal aid, withdraw all Federal officers and judiciary.

                                      Let them be as weird as they wish and as weird as the state will allow.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Cut off all Federal aid, withdraw all Federal officers and judiciary.

                                        Let them be as weird as they wish and as weird as the state will allow.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        @Jolly said in Police State:

                                        Cut off all Federal aid, withdraw all Federal officers and judiciary.

                                        Do they get to stop paying into the federal treasury too?

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

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                                          Loki
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                                          @Horace said in Police State:

                                          You will never convince me this is not all fun and games for those people.

                                          There is definitely a troubling aspect to federal forces engaging with citizens but no doubt this is also very much a rhetorical was and the left is looking past real anarchists doing millions in damage as if that doesn’t matter.

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