Police State
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@Catseye3 said in Police State:
Also from the article that Jon cited: "Trump threatened to send additional agents into other major cities, including New York City and Philadelphia, if the "liberal Democrats" in charge don't tamp down on civil unrest."
When you combine this with the Guardian article excerpts I posted yesterday, it forms a disturbing thought picture. Whether the actions contemplated there come to pass, it is, how shall I say, scary but not surprising. But scary.
Edited to Add: From today's CNN headlines: "The strange and frightening images of unidentified military-looking men taking protesters off the streets of Portland, Oregon, and into unmarked vans may be headed to a city near you if that city is, as President Donald Trump declared Monday, run by "liberal Democrats."
This is . . . not a good look for a country that's supposed to be an open society. And it's particularly distressing that the President is openly threatening cities based on the political affiliations of their leaders.
"The teams of masked authorities seen in Portland dressed up for war like special forces apparently belong to the Department of Homeland Security's Customs and Border Protection Unit . . . they've been dispatched to American streets."
Truly, what the hell is wrong with your brain?
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@jon-nyc said in Police State:
I think you’re in cognitive decline.
Im not the one in cognitive decline. The claim youre making is that federal troops went into portland dressed like military soldier, wearing no identification, and began snatching innocent civilians off the street at random and stuffing them into unmarked vans. That paints a very nasty picture. A picture the Left wants painted. But its a bare assed lie. Every fucking word of it. I proved that.
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Random observations:
Many of the jack-booted thugs are probably ICE folks that aren’t used to dealing with citizens with video cameras.
This was a strategic error for DHS. They’ll never get the Trump stink off of themselves and they’ll pay for it when the Dems control government again.
Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?
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@jon-nyc said in Police State:
Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?
What keeps drumming in my head is what he said during the Senate trial: "I always find a way to win."
I think Trump will do anything to stay in the White House because of what awaits him when his term is done, and I think he doesn't care how he does it.
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@jon-nyc said in Police State:
Larry, I think the weight of Trump’s pannus on your forehead for 4 years is taking its toll.
No Jon, I think you're projecting.
You said
"Many of the jack-booted thugs are probably ICE folks that aren’t used to dealing with citizens with video cameras.This was a strategic error for DHS. They’ll never get the Trump stink off it they’ll pay for it when the Dems control government again.
Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?"
They aren't "Jack booted thugs". Nor are they ICE agents. Both of those things are Leftwing propaganda, and you either suck the stuff up like a hog eating swill or you must don't know any better. They are in fact a well trained division of federal police. The uniforms they wear are the uniforms they always wear, and have worn since their division was established back in ( I think) the 1920s. The uniform has a clearly visible insignia identifying who and what they are.
As for "paying for it when the dems control government again"... we will ALL pay. The democrat party died. It CANT control government again. If the current Marxist party that has cooped it's name ever gets control of government, this division of federal police will be the least of your problems.
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@Catseye3 said in Police State:
@jon-nyc said in Police State:
Trump poured gasoline on a dwindling flame. Too stupid to realize that? Or is that an electoral strategy?
What keeps drumming in my head is what he said during the Senate trial: "I always find a way to win."
I think Trump will do anything to stay in the White House because of what awaits him when his term is done, and I think he doesn't care how he does it.
Then you need to stop thinking. It obviously isn't something you're not very good at.
Jesus H. Christ.
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@George-K said in Police State:
Let Portland Burn
There's some confusion here. His main thesis is sound; Portland should cope with itself without federal intervention, because "a President sending in a police force to a city is a dangerous precedent that will be expanded upon." That is a view that is objective. But then he gives away his true feelings about Portland when he uses the word "fester"; Portland, it seems, does things of which Mr. Erickson disapproves.
So which is it, Erick old sock? Let Portland burn to prevent Constitutional infractions to the rest of the country? Or let Portland burn because it's a nasty icky Gemorrah that should get what it deserves?
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@George-K said in Police State:
@Jolly said in Police State:
Y'all do know the anarchists have been doxxing the federal officers?
So are they unidentifiable or not. This is a central question.
Everybody should be on that case, all sides. What is the truth?
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They are identified as Federal officers. Instead of a name tag, they have a number or a pseudonym.
Therefore, in case of misconduct, an officer can be identified.
I look at it this way...Want proper name badges on the officers? Ban masks on the protesters.
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@Larry :
Actually the guys who illegally arrested that man and threw him in an unmarked van were from Customs and Border Patrol. They (CBP) even released a statement about it. It's true I said ICE, not CBP, but it turns out that CBP are the ones that operate along the border, whereas ICE is more in the interior. So I think the point is a valid one, and moreso with CBP.
Also 'jack-booted thugs' was ironic commentary. People who were paying attention to partisan politics in the early 90s will know how that phrase got popularized to begin with and thus understand my usage.
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Wall of Mom
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/portland-moms-wall-human-shield-protesters/
After a Facebook post called for mothers to make a "Wall of Moms," dozens wearing white and helmets attended Saturday. They stood arm-in-arm with each other, forming a barrier between federal agents and demonstrators.
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