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  • 8 89th
    30 May 2024, 11:36

    @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

    Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

    The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

    So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

    We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

    Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

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    Jolly
    wrote on 30 May 2024, 11:46 last edited by
    #146

    @89th said in Bidenomics:

    @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

    Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

    The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

    So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

    We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

    Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

    Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      George K
      wrote on 30 May 2024, 11:49 last edited by
      #147

      Isn't it coordinated funny how these outlets all sing the "it's not that bad" song. They all throw these numbers out to gaslight make you think that you're crazy for feeling the pinch.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • J Jolly
        30 May 2024, 11:46

        @89th said in Bidenomics:

        @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

        https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

        Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

        The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

        So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

        We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

        Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

        Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

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        89th
        wrote on 30 May 2024, 12:48 last edited by
        #148

        @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

        @89th said in Bidenomics:

        @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

        https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

        Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

        The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

        So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

        We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

        Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

        Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

        I mean…costs were already exploding during the bush and Obama years, and really took off at the end of Trump, so one could say Biden had stopped the bleeding? 😉

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        • A Axtremus
          21 May 2024, 00:04

          @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

          You also think Walmart ties are appropriate work attire, so,…

          And that’s proven true in the real world judging by compliments received from clients, colleagues, and business associates on Walmart ties. 👍

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          Mik
          wrote on 30 May 2024, 12:52 last edited by
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          @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

          @LuFins-Dad said in Bidenomics:

          You also think Walmart ties are appropriate work attire, so,…

          And that’s proven true in the real world judging by compliments received from clients, colleagues, and business associates on Walmart ties. 👍

          It's cute you thought they were serious.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • 8 89th
            30 May 2024, 12:48

            @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

            @89th said in Bidenomics:

            @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

            https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

            Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

            The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

            So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

            We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

            Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

            Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

            I mean…costs were already exploding during the bush and Obama years, and really took off at the end of Trump, so one could say Biden had stopped the bleeding? 😉

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            wrote on 30 May 2024, 13:27 last edited by Jolly
            #150

            @89th said in Bidenomics:

            @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

            @89th said in Bidenomics:

            @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

            https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

            Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

            The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

            So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

            We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

            Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

            Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

            I mean…costs were already exploding during the bush and Obama years, and really took off at the end of Trump, so one could say Biden had stopped the bleeding? 😉

            Don't know what your smoking, but it's powerful stuff.

            You forget, during those years I wasn't some craven, nerditic college student, jerking off in the bathroom after getting turned down on Saturday night. I was a working man, paying bills and putting my kids through college.

            I don't have a plethora of horseshit graphs and junk data, but I knew what cars, groceries, clothes and utilities cost.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • 8 89th
              30 May 2024, 12:48

              @Jolly said in Bidenomics:

              @89th said in Bidenomics:

              @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

              https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

              Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

              The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

              So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

              We are part of the majority (64%). We worked hard, and saved hard, and tried to make smart decisions (having 3 kids is a financially risky decision these days!). but still... we are fortunate to not feel the financial pressures that 36% of the country feels.

              Also, I'm not surprised. Child care costs is a massive burden these days, plus housing, plus college... all 3 of those cost buckets have vastly outpaced the average income. And don't even get me started about McDonald's!

              Vote Biden and enjoy!😛

              I mean…costs were already exploding during the bush and Obama years, and really took off at the end of Trump, so one could say Biden had stopped the bleeding? 😉

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              George K
              wrote on 30 May 2024, 13:34 last edited by George K
              #151

              @89th said in Bidenomics:

              costs were already exploding during the bush and Obama years, and really took off at the end of Trump

              Not defending Trump's dumping money into the economy, but the inflation rate when Biden took office was 1.9%.image.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                89th
                wrote on 30 May 2024, 17:32 last edited by
                #152

                LOL that is like tossing a bunch of dry wood onto a smoldering campfire, then telling someone else to come watch the fire to make sure it doesn't get too big, and you come back 5 minutes later and ask why is the fire burning so hot?

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                • A Axtremus
                  30 May 2024, 10:49

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

                  Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

                  The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

                  So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 31 May 2024, 13:46 last edited by
                  #153

                  @Axtremus said in Bidenomics:

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/finance-parents-young-kids-inflation-federal-reserve-rcna153339

                  Why parents with young children are reporting a dramatic drop-off in their financial well-being

                  The Survey of Household Economics and Decisionmaking found a decline in the percentage of parents living with children under age 18 who felt financially secure, dropping from 69% in 2022 to 64% in 2023. That was also down from a record high of 75% in 2021.

                  So … @89th , @Aqua-Letifer , how are you feeling?

                  Oh, I wake up with my balls about an inch away from the bandsaw every morning, so inflation's just a nice extra.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 20:12 last edited by
                    #154

                    Another "revision."

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      2 Apr 2024, 00:01

                      Remember the article by Summers et al?

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 20:55 last edited by
                      #155

                      @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                      Remember the article by Summers et al?

                      Which is it, RNC, median? Or average?

                      When Bill Gates walks into a soup kitchen the average net worth rises to $900MM. However the median net worth stays at a few bucks.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc
                        4 Jun 2024, 20:55

                        @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                        Remember the article by Summers et al?

                        Which is it, RNC, median? Or average?

                        When Bill Gates walks into a soup kitchen the average net worth rises to $900MM. However the median net worth stays at a few bucks.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 21:39 last edited by
                        #156

                        @jon-nyc said in Bidenomics:

                        Which is it, RNC, median? Or average?

                        https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/how-much-you-need-to-earn-in-every-state-to-buy-a-home/

                        Homebuyers in nearly half of the country need to earn at least six figures to be able to purchase a home.

                        Nationally, the typical household would need to earn $99,000 to buy a median-priced home of $415,500 in February, according to the most recent Realtor.com® data. This also accounts for property taxes and insurance costs, and assumes a 10% down payment.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 23:00 last edited by
                          #157

                          So they were wrong the second time. Thanks.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 4 Jun 2024, 23:08 last edited by
                            #158

                            At the end of the day, the people who cannot afford a home are not going to be overly concerned with rasslin' over the statistical weeds...

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • G George K
                              4 Jun 2024, 20:12

                              Another "revision."

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                              taiwan_girl
                              wrote on 5 Jun 2024, 07:21 last edited by
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                              @George-K said in Bidenomics:

                              Another "revision."

                              That is probably a good thing. Means that the economy is not growing so fast, which is what the Central Bank is looking for.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on 15 Jun 2024, 22:25 last edited by
                                #160

                                It's all good...

                                https://hotair.com/headlines/2024/06/15/unexpectedly-alert-consumer-sentiment-unexpectedly-falls-to-lowest-level-in-months-n3790306

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  taiwan_girl
                                  wrote on 25 Jul 2024, 14:49 last edited by
                                  #161

                                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2024/07/25/gdp-q2-economy/

                                  The U.S. economy grew at a surprisingly robust 2.8 percent annualized rate in the second quarter, capping two years of solid expansion, despite some signs of softening.

                                  Gross domestic product for the quarter ending in June was double the 1.4 percent reading in the previous quarter, but reflects a general cool-down from last year’s brisk pace, according to Commerce Department data released Thursday morning.

                                  “Economic growth is solid, not too hot and not too cold,” said Chris Rupkey, chief economist at Fwdbonds, a financial research firm. “The soft patch we had at the beginning of the year has gone away and with it, the risks of a recession are dying on the vine.”

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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on 25 Jul 2024, 15:38 last edited by
                                    #162

                                    I will await the revised figures...

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 2 Aug 2024, 12:14 last edited by
                                      #163

                                      Bunch of tweets from yesterday commenting on how things are.

                                      https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/31/stock-market-today-live-updates.html

                                      Some fresh data stoked fears over a possible recession and the notion that the Federal Reserve could be too late to start cutting interest rates. Initial jobless claims rose the most since August 2023. The ISM manufacturing index, a barometer of factory activity in the U.S., came in at 46.8%, worse than expected and a signal of economic contraction. After these releases, the 10-year Treasury yield dropped below 4% for the first time since February.

                                      These weak data releases come a day after central bank policymakers chose to keep rates at the highest levels in two decades, when Fed Chair Jerome Powell gave investors some hope by signaling a September rate cut is on the table.

                                      “The data we have got since the Fed meeting signals all of a sudden that people are now worrying that maybe it isn’t a soft landing and the Fed has vacillated too long,” said Tom Fitzpatrick, managing director for global market insights at R.J. O’Brien and Associates. “The bond market is already telling you that we’re behind the curve … the Fed is more prepared to make a different mistake for fear of making a similar mistake.”

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 3 Aug 2024, 14:24 last edited by
                                        #164

                                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sahm_rule

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 3 Aug 2024, 14:25 last edited by
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                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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