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"Whiteness"

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 12:36 last edited by
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    That's not music.

    I was only joking

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    • M Mik
      16 Jul 2020, 12:27

      So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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      Axtremus
      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 12:41 last edited by
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      @Mik said in "Whiteness":

      So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

      That question can be easily parried with a response like this:

      The Smithie has an entire museum for that: the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History & Culture

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        Axtremus
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        As to the original topic presented in the opening post ...

        Oy! Really?That’s wack! 何 (なに)?Alamak! 有冇搞錯?

        Pardon my multicultural expressions of befuddlement and incredulity.

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          16 Jul 2020, 12:36

          That's not music.

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          Mik
          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 12:51 last edited by
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          @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

          That's not music.

          Neither is this.

          Link to video

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 14:53 last edited by
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            A lot of fascinating stuff from the Smithsonian site:

            What are some aspects of whiteness you’ve internalized? How can these be hurtful to you and others?

            It’s nice to be in spaces where I can feel free to say what I want, talk about complex systems of white supremacy, and express my frustrations without having to worry about the feelings of the white people in the room.

            To learn more on how to teach your child about the ways whiteness is prevalent in society, watch this video with concrete examples and suggestions:

            Please love yourself.

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              ILM
              wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 15:53 last edited by
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              Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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              • I ILM
                16 Jul 2020, 15:53

                Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                Loki
                wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:01 last edited by
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                @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

                Exactly. White kids in their 20’s would not recognize themselves in this.

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                • M Mik
                  16 Jul 2020, 12:27

                  So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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                  Copper
                  wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:10 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                  So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                  They have their own separate museum.

                  The whites don't, they have to share.

                  They get what they deserve

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:44 last edited by
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                    Whites are no damn good.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:46 last edited by
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                      Their life experience is at a lower level than the experiences of non whites. That barrier is one through which mere verbal communication cannot penetrate. People born with white skin will die without ever having known what it is to truly be alive.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • M Mik
                        16 Jul 2020, 16:44

                        Whites are no damn good.

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                        Loki
                        wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:48 last edited by
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                        @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                        Whites are no damn good.

                        The young whites already know that. They are actually ashamed to be born from such ruthless parents.

                        The new book for all of them should be Too Much and Too Little.

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                        • I ILM
                          16 Jul 2020, 15:53

                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:49 last edited by Aqua Letifer
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                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                          Please love yourself.

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                            16 Jul 2020, 16:49

                            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                            Mik
                            wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:51 last edited by
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                            @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                            I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                            It certainly is.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:52 last edited by
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                              I once went to a museum that had a presentation entitled "The Americans": From what I remember, they described a fairly basic culture, mostly stolen from the British, but with more shouting.

                              I was only joking

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:53 last edited by
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                                That's without even addressing the obvious digs in the list. This wasn't even an attempt to explain "whiteness" with generalities. The game was, "how can we vilify this group? Let's see, let's throw in some contradictions, some intolerance because everyone knows how intolerant The Whites are, some silly things we want to make fun of and call them White based on I-have-no-idea-what... there we go, good list."

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  16 Jul 2020, 16:49

                                  @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                  Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                  I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:56 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                  It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                  No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:57 last edited by
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                                    Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • C Catseye3
                                      16 Jul 2020, 16:56

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                      It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                      No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                                      @Catseye3 said in "Whiteness":

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                      It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                      No, it isn't. It's different. The other way around it's racist, but this way it isn't because shut up.

                                      It's not even a funny list. It's not a list of silly stereotypes that are typically attributed to white people: mac & cheese, Kenny G, gluten aversions and the like. That I could get behind, because, okay, jokes. Instead, they might as well have labeled this raciographic as "Why White People Suck."

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        16 Jul 2020, 16:57

                                        Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 16:59 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in "Whiteness":

                                        Did you guys actually visit the site? It gets worse.

                                        I did. Those are where I got the quotes from.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • M Mik
                                          16 Jul 2020, 16:51

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                          It certainly is.

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 16 Jul 2020, 17:33 last edited by Copper
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                                          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                          It certainly is.

                                          It certainly is.

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