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"Whiteness"

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    At The Smithsonian: https://nmaahc.si.edu/learn/talking-about-race/topics/whiteness?fbclid=IwAR1xk6U-CdFx6AVMGqx3f8jP0KklEUWbNSrB-YjyQyMr3Jfu4NqE3r8hrwk#paragraphs-item-11236

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Loki
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      I thought I was reading Mary Trump’s book for a second about everything that was wrong with Donald based on the grandfather’s transmission of ideas and how Mary’s father the assumed heir was driven to death because he saw a world greater than whiteness. And thus Mary avenges Donald for playing into her grandfather’s deadly abuse.

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      • MikM Offline
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        So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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          George K
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          @Mik said in "Whiteness":

          So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

          Good question. Presumably the opposite of the things in the posters.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            Mik
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            #5

            Funny - they don't have a topic for that. Which is in itself racism.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @Mik said in "Whiteness":

              So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

              Music that isn't shite.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                Music that isn't shite.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

                @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                Music that isn't shite.

                You sure about that?

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                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  That's not music.

                  I was only joking

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                  • MikM Mik

                    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                    AxtremusA Offline
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                    @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                    So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                    That question can be easily parried with a response like this:

                    The Smithie has an entire museum for that: the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History & Culture

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                    • AxtremusA Offline
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                      Axtremus
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                      As to the original topic presented in the opening post ...

                      Oy! Really?That’s wack! 何 (なに)?Alamak! 有冇搞錯?

                      Pardon my multicultural expressions of befuddlement and incredulity.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        That's not music.

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                        Mik
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                        @Doctor-Phibes said in "Whiteness":

                        That's not music.

                        Neither is this.

                        Link to video

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          A lot of fascinating stuff from the Smithsonian site:

                          What are some aspects of whiteness you’ve internalized? How can these be hurtful to you and others?

                          It’s nice to be in spaces where I can feel free to say what I want, talk about complex systems of white supremacy, and express my frustrations without having to worry about the feelings of the white people in the room.

                          To learn more on how to teach your child about the ways whiteness is prevalent in society, watch this video with concrete examples and suggestions:

                          Please love yourself.

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                            ILM
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                            Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                              Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                              Loki
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                              @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                              Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

                              Exactly. White kids in their 20’s would not recognize themselves in this.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

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                                @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                                So what does the Smithie have for Blackness and Black Cuture?

                                They have their own separate museum.

                                The whites don't, they have to share.

                                They get what they deserve

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                                  Whites are no damn good.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Their life experience is at a lower level than the experiences of non whites. That barrier is one through which mere verbal communication cannot penetrate. People born with white skin will die without ever having known what it is to truly be alive.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Whites are no damn good.

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                                      Loki
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                                      @Mik said in "Whiteness":

                                      Whites are no damn good.

                                      The young whites already know that. They are actually ashamed to be born from such ruthless parents.

                                      The new book for all of them should be Too Much and Too Little.

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                                      • I ILM

                                        Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white." In reality, many of these characteristics are undergoing change, apparently not fast enough for some.

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                        Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                        I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

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                                          Mik
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in "Whiteness":

                                          @ILM said in "Whiteness":

                                          Regarding the Smithsonian poster - those attributes represent the stereotypical "white."

                                          I have no idea what in the fuck that's even supposed to mean. It's as ridiculous and racist as drawing conclusions about "the blacks" or "those Asians."

                                          It certainly is.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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