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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #2

    Klaus posted a graph to this effect at least a week ago.

    Lockdown stops a lot of causes of death. Not as many car crashes, gang shootings, even flu

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Aqua Letifer
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      Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

      The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

      I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

        The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

        I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

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        #4

        @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

        Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

        The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

        I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

        They're not looking at an in toto number.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

          Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

          The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

          I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

          They're not looking at an in toto number.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @Jolly Do you think they should?

          Please love yourself.

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            I'm pretty sure that 'exponential' isn't the only concept that Jim Hoft struggles with.

            Have you seen the rest of that website? He's totally fucking bananas.

            I was only joking

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @Jolly Do you think they should?

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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

              @Jolly Do you think they should?

              On both sides of the equation, perhaps.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Doctor Phibes
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                If somebody tells you he's Napoleon, the first thing you do isn't to check whether he's got the correct arm stuck inside his coat.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #9

                  Well, is the 15% claim correct? Or not?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Well, is the 15% claim correct? Or not?

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                    @Jolly That question isn't the point of the article. The point of the article is to show that the Covid-19 situation is a monstrous hoax, and as such is clearly completely bogus.

                    It's an interesting academic question, but nothing more.

                    I was only joking

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

                      Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

                      The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

                      I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

                      They're not looking at an in toto number.

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                      Larry
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                      @Jolly said in Down 15%?:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

                      Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

                      The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

                      I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

                      They're not looking at an in toto number.

                      Link to video

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #12

                        Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          Is it possible the total fatality statistics haven't been accurately reported as yet because everybody's attention is elsewhere?

                          I was only joking

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                            jon-nyc
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                            It's something like this:

                            1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                            2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                            3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

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                                Jolly
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                                @jon-nyc said in Down 15%?:

                                Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

                                That's because you're focused on the last paragraph. Consider the numbers without it.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  It's something like this:

                                  1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                                  2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                                  3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.
                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Down 15%?:

                                  It's something like this:

                                  1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                                  2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                                  3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.

                                  My philosophy professor would be proud of you!

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • KlausK Klaus

                                    On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                                    Jolly
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                                    #18

                                    @Klaus said in Down 15%?:

                                    On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

                                    Also interesting.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      @Klaus said in Down 15%?:

                                      On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

                                      Show me one with a non-laughable amount of reasoning behind it.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        Today there’s an article about that in Die Welt. I didn’t link to it because it’s in German and paywalled.

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                                          Here’s one English language source referenced in that article.

                                          https://www.ifpri.org/blog/how-much-will-global-poverty-increase-because-covid-19

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