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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Jolly Do you think they should?

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    @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

    @Jolly Do you think they should?

    On both sides of the equation, perhaps.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      If somebody tells you he's Napoleon, the first thing you do isn't to check whether he's got the correct arm stuck inside his coat.

      I was only joking

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        Well, is the 15% claim correct? Or not?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Well, is the 15% claim correct? Or not?

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          @Jolly That question isn't the point of the article. The point of the article is to show that the Covid-19 situation is a monstrous hoax, and as such is clearly completely bogus.

          It's an interesting academic question, but nothing more.

          I was only joking

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            @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

            Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

            The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

            I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

            They're not looking at an in toto number.

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            @Jolly said in Down 15%?:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in Down 15%?:

            Pretty hard to take seriously any "news" outlet that doesn't know the difference between less and fewer.

            The US is experiencing 34,000 less deaths in 2020 than in the prior four years but we are concerned about a virus that to date as of March 31, 2020 that had a total of 4,000 US deaths?

            I love how we're more than a month into this and we still haven't quite wrapped our heads around what "exponential growth" means.

            They're not looking at an in toto number.

            Link to video

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              Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Is it possible the total fatality statistics haven't been accurately reported as yet because everybody's attention is elsewhere?

                I was only joking

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                  It's something like this:

                  1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                  2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                  3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Down 15%?:

                      Jolly try to put his actual arguments into words and I think it will be really apparent how ridiculous it is.

                      That's because you're focused on the last paragraph. Consider the numbers without it.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        It's something like this:

                        1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                        2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                        3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.
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                        @jon-nyc said in Down 15%?:

                        It's something like this:

                        1. We invoked unprecedented social distancing measures in order to combat Covid-19.
                        2. As a result, we are experiencing fewer deaths from all causes than most recent years.
                        3. Ergo, the threat from Covid-19 was a hoax.

                        My philosophy professor would be proud of you!

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • KlausK Klaus

                          On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                          @Klaus said in Down 15%?:

                          On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

                          Also interesting.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

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                            @Klaus said in Down 15%?:

                            On the other hand, there are projections that the overall deaths caused by the recession (which is in turn currently caused by the lockdown) will far exceed the number of deaths caused by COVID-19 itself.

                            Show me one with a non-laughable amount of reasoning behind it.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              Today there’s an article about that in Die Welt. I didn’t link to it because it’s in German and paywalled.

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                                Here’s one English language source referenced in that article.

                                https://www.ifpri.org/blog/how-much-will-global-poverty-increase-because-covid-19

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                                  Thanks Klaus I’ll have a look.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    JD Vance says the all-cause drop is not real. CDC takes months to compile the stats. Not sure his source on that.

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                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      I would have thought it would take a fair amount of time to compile death statistics for the entire country, particularly when the CDC is more than busy with other things.

                                      What's odd is how hard some people seem to want to try to deny what at this point should be screamingly bloody obvious.

                                      I was only joking

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