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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #89

    Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

    The Brad

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      #90

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

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        #91

        @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

        Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

        Oh totally. They say it happens 5x faster than the human brain can even process. Would be faster than a light switch.

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          kluurs
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          #92

          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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          • George KG George K

            @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

            At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

            The tweet has been deleted.

            The internet is forever:

            image.jpeg

            So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

            image.jpeg

            LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
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            #93

            @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

            @George-K said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

            At least they stopped short of saying "Let them die."

            The tweet has been deleted.

            The internet is forever:

            image.jpeg

            So, they replaced it with this "better" tweet.

            image.jpeg

            Did you see the whole attempt to blame it on Elon Musk and Starlink?

            The Brad

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              #94

              If the sub was disabled the pilot would surely know that recovery could take weeks.

              He would have no choice

              He would have to kill the others to save himself

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              • kluursK kluurs

                worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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                #95

                @kluurs said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

                I just watched that this morning. This is sad but I wonder if they have video footage from the main ship documenting the trip and accidentally documenting the initial confusion and reaction when it went missing.

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
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                  #96

                  So it sounds like the facts are in.

                  The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately. This helped eventually narrow the search area. A Canadian remotely operated sub found wreckage debris, including main hull, on the ocean floor about 1,700 feet from the titanic. Likely no bodies to recover.

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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
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                    #97

                    THey're also blaming the implosion on repeated stress on the hull.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      #98

                      What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        What does “repeated” mean? Like after repeat trips into the ocean, or repeated stress during this dive?

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                        @Horace said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                        Like after repeat trips into the ocean

                        This.

                        Aircraft are certified for only so many cycles before structural failures need to be addressed.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...

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                          @Jolly said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                          A thought...Carbon fiber arrows are used a lot in archery. Unlike aluminum, though, when they go, they fail catastrophically. I wonder if a sub hull is the same way?...

                          I'm back to this one...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            bachophile
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                            So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

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                              Jon
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                              Aliens

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                So it sounds like the facts are in.

                                The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately. This helped eventually narrow the search area. A Canadian remotely operated sub found wreckage debris, including main hull, on the ocean floor about 1,700 feet from the titanic. Likely no bodies to recover.

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                                wrote on last edited by Jon
                                #103

                                @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                So it sounds like the facts are in.

                                The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                                So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

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                                  #104

                                  Link to video

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • JonJ Jon

                                    @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    So it sounds like the facts are in.

                                    The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                                    So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

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                                    Jon
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #105

                                    @Jon said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    @89th said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                    So it sounds like the facts are in.

                                    The Navy (using top secret tech) detected an implosion sound about 9,000 feet down, on the 13,000 feet trip. They knew about this immediately.

                                    So this answers our question about the sonobuoy and related underwater listening technology. It was quite remarkable when I was around it in the mid 80s, of course 40 years later it will be indistinguishable from magic.

                                    From the NYT:

                                    The U.S. Navy, using data from a secret network of underwater sensors designed to track hostile submarines, detected “an anomaly consistent with an implosion or explosion” in the vicinity of the Titan submersible at the time communications with the vessel were lost on Sunday, two senior Navy officials said on Thursday.

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                                    • bachophileB bachophile

                                      So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

                                      RenaudaR Offline
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                                      Renauda
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                                      #106

                                      @bachophile said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                      So now we know they were dead already on day 2, so what the hell was the rhythmic knocking heard after that….something else is down there playing drums….

                                      My guess is ghosts banging on Davy Jones locker.

                                      Elbows up!

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #107

                                        So if they heard the implosion at the time, why didn’t they say anything until yesterday?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          The ocean is a noisy place.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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