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Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic

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    Mik
    wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 00:56 last edited by
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    Yes, but the internet moves quickly.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 01:06 last edited by
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      Based on the way safety appeared to be considered as an inconvenience more than a requirement, I'm guessing some lawyers are going to be moving pretty quickly, too.

      I was only joking

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 01:30 last edited by
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 11:43 last edited by
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          Well, breathable air should be gone…

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            bachophile
            wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 15:47 last edited by
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            IMG_0100.jpeg

            This pic was tweeted out recently.

            4X-EDL is an Elal Boeing 787. On June 20 it did the Miami Tel Aviv route. They got this message from ATC. What they were they thinking? That a plane at 36000 feet can see a vehicle the size of a SUV in the floating middle of the Atlantic. But I guess it never hurts to try.

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              22 Jun 2023, 15:47

              IMG_0100.jpeg

              This pic was tweeted out recently.

              4X-EDL is an Elal Boeing 787. On June 20 it did the Miami Tel Aviv route. They got this message from ATC. What they were they thinking? That a plane at 36000 feet can see a vehicle the size of a SUV in the floating middle of the Atlantic. But I guess it never hurts to try.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 15:51 last edited by
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              @bachophile

              Yes, there’s always the proverbial, off-chance.

              Elbows up!

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                Horace
                wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 15:59 last edited by
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                That would be like trying to spot a submersible 12000 feet under the ocean.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  bachophile
                  wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 16:21 last edited by
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                  Coast guard tweeted out

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                    89th
                    wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 16:34 last edited by
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                    Can you imagine if they found more Trump classified files inside the sub?

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 16:49 last edited by
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                      I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                      And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:01 last edited by
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                        I haven't seen a plausible explanation, other than implosion. They actually had lots of safeguards in place, but it all hinged on not imploding, of course. Sand bags were attached to the sub by ropes that would dissolve in water after some number of hours, so even if everybody was unconscious, the sub would have floated to the top. Unless it imploded.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Doctor Phibes
                          wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:49 last edited by
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                          They're saying the debris is from part of the sub - a landing frame and rear cover

                          https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464

                          I was only joking

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:52 last edited by
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                            Were those parts important?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:11 last edited by
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                              I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                22 Jun 2023, 16:49

                                I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                                And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

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                                89th
                                wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:16 last edited by 89th
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                I’ve had a rather macabre thought over the past few days that I’ve been hesitant to post. I even did once but deleted it. 96 hours of air is based on a full cabin. They were down 1 person, so that should stretch it out some, right? I mean, assuming the sub is intact?

                                And for that matter, there’s the possibility that 1 or more of the 5 passengers died during this… And if you really want to get dark, there may be some passengers willing to do whatever it takes to cut down on the amount of oxygen being used down there…

                                Believe it or not, there is legal precedent for this:

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R_v_Dudley_and_Stephens

                                In short. 4 men were in a lifeboat in the later 1800s... after many days, one of the men was in a coma. So they killed him and ate him. They claimed "custom of the sea" as a defense (a real thing btw, an alternative to maritime law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custom_of_the_sea), but ultimately were sentenced to the statutory death penalty.

                                I guess back to your point, there was a reddit thread about this too, but basically yes if someone died, it would increase the length of available oxygen.

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                                  22 Jun 2023, 18:11

                                  I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:16 last edited by
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                                  @Mik said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                  I wonder how many more victims the Titanic has claimed since it sank.

                                  Including those who were forced to watch the movie?

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:33 last edited by
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                                    Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

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                                      wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:51 last edited by
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                                      OceanGate said in a statement that “we now believe that our CEO Stockton Rush, Shahzada Dawood and his son Suleman Dawood, Hamish Harding, and Paul-Henri Nargeolet, have sadly been lost.”

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                                        22 Jun 2023, 18:33

                                        Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:07 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Submersible tour boat joins the Titanic:

                                        Barring the recovery of the intact sub while there was still breathable air, this was the best possible outcome. Death would have been instantaneous.

                                        Oh totally. They say it happens 5x faster than the human brain can even process. Would be faster than a light switch.

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                                          kluurs
                                          wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 19:32 last edited by kluurs
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                                          worth a rewatch - CBS Sunday Morning episode where they go down in the Titan to the Titanic
                                          https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/jfHkP_1UqqKM_pBmRZ8kaRAGONEEMqQg/

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