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Well, this will make "reparations" awkward

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    I hadn't realized she married a white guy. I guess it's not politically useful to talk about that.

    When John Greene, believed to be an ancestor of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, got off a schooner from Trinidad in Charleston, S.C., he was immediately enslaved and dispatched to a plantation, according to family lore.

    A remarkable story if true. Mostly slaves became slaves when black people in africa made them that way, before selling them to the white people.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Jon
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      All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        I hadn't realized she married a white guy. I guess it's not politically useful to talk about that.

        When John Greene, believed to be an ancestor of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, got off a schooner from Trinidad in Charleston, S.C., he was immediately enslaved and dispatched to a plantation, according to family lore.

        A remarkable story if true. Mostly slaves became slaves when black people in africa made them that way, before selling them to the white people.

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        Jon
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        @Horace said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

        I hadn't realized she married a white guy. I guess it's not politically useful to talk about that.

        When John Greene, believed to be an ancestor of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, got off a schooner from Trinidad in Charleston, S.C., he was immediately enslaved and dispatched to a plantation, according to family lore.

        A remarkable story if true. Mostly slaves became slaves when black people in africa made them that way, before selling them to the white people.

        I’m certain it’s false. He didn’t take a schooner to antebellum Charleston as a free man.

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        • JonJ Jon

          All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

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          George K
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          @Jon said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

          All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

          Sure, if you go back far enough.

          Somewhere, and I can't remember where, I read a statistic that since the founding of the colonies in North America, only 1.6% of the population were slaveholders. I wonder how they figured that. If true, it'll make "reparations" difficult as well. Being 1st generation American, I can pretty much guarantee that none of my ancestors held slaves, at least not in North America.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • CopperC Offline
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            I assume my ancestors were slaves in every country between Kenya, Saudi, Greece, Italy, Spain, France and Ireland.

            I assume my ancestors owned slaves in those places too.

            People that want to receive reparations understandably like reparations.

            People that want to pay reparations are short sighted to say the least.

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              So she’s white adjacent?

              :rimshot:

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                So she’s white adjacent?

                :rimshot:

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                George K
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                @LuFins-Dad said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                So she’s white adjacent?

                She's White by injection.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Jon said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                  All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

                  Sure, if you go back far enough.

                  Somewhere, and I can't remember where, I read a statistic that since the founding of the colonies in North America, only 1.6% of the population were slaveholders. I wonder how they figured that. If true, it'll make "reparations" difficult as well. Being 1st generation American, I can pretty much guarantee that none of my ancestors held slaves, at least not in North America.

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                  @George-K said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                  @Jon said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                  All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

                  Sure, if you go back far enough.

                  Somewhere, and I can't remember where, I read a statistic that since the founding of the colonies in North America, only 1.6% of the population were slaveholders. I wonder how they figured that. If true, it'll make "reparations" difficult as well. Being 1st generation American, I can pretty much guarantee that none of my ancestors held slaves, at least not in North America.

                  Right but they want the obligation to fall on the US government, not individuals with slave holding forebears.

                  I’ve said this before here: it’s almost certain that a higher percentage of African Americans are descended from slaveholders than white Americans.

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                    @George-K said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                    @Jon said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                    All living humans, save for the remaining hunter-gatherer tribes, are descended from both slaves and slaveholders.

                    Sure, if you go back far enough.

                    Somewhere, and I can't remember where, I read a statistic that since the founding of the colonies in North America, only 1.6% of the population were slaveholders. I wonder how they figured that. If true, it'll make "reparations" difficult as well. Being 1st generation American, I can pretty much guarantee that none of my ancestors held slaves, at least not in North America.

                    Right but they want the obligation to fall on the US government, not individuals with slave holding forebears.

                    I’ve said this before here: it’s almost certain that a higher percentage of African Americans are descended from slaveholders than white Americans.

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                    @Jon said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                    they want the obligation to fall on the US government

                    I'm not quite sure I'm ready to cough up my "fair share" of that government obligation.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      #11

                      I never will be. It’s totally absurd.

                      Plus it would never work, in the sense that it wouldn’t ‘repair’ anything. Before the checks were even cashed all the three-named black intellectuals would be going on about how “this is just a down payment” and “you can’t erase 400 years of white supremacy with a check” etc.

                      It also wouldn’t work in the sense of gap closure. For that to endure you need to address the human capital gap, something the progressives won’t even discuss. In fact, they’re busy defining it away.

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                        Reparations would set racial animosity in stone, and that is exactly what the progressives want. If insufficient racism exists for their purposes, they will eagerly create it.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Reparations would set racial animosity in stone, and that is exactly what the progressives want. If insufficient racism exists for their purposes, they will eagerly create it.

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                          Copper
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                          @Horace said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                          what the progressives want.

                          What do they want?

                          Like the ban on natural gas and oil and plastics they seem to have no ability to think more than a few minutes into the future.

                          This reparation proposal is completely ridiculous.

                          Even if everyone in the country wanted reparations paid.

                          There is no way the people who receive money, or pay money could possibly be identified.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            @Horace said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                            what the progressives want.

                            What do they want?

                            Like the ban on natural gas and oil and plastics they seem to have no ability to think more than a few minutes into the future.

                            This reparation proposal is completely ridiculous.

                            Even if everyone in the country wanted reparations paid.

                            There is no way the people who receive money, or pay money could possibly be identified.

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                            @Copper said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                            What do they want?

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                            • MikM Away
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                              Mik
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                              A colossal shakedown.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                I hadn't realized she married a white guy. I guess it's not politically useful to talk about that.

                                When John Greene, believed to be an ancestor of Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson, got off a schooner from Trinidad in Charleston, S.C., he was immediately enslaved and dispatched to a plantation, according to family lore.

                                A remarkable story if true. Mostly slaves became slaves when black people in africa made them that way, before selling them to the white people.

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                                @Horace said in Well, this will make "reparations" awkward:

                                I hadn't realized she married a white guy. I guess it's not politically useful to talk about that.

                                Just like who Kamala married.

                                And who Michelle married.

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                                  Copper
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                                  I wonder what the revolution, after reparations are paid, will look like.

                                  Of course it will never happen, but the speculation could be fun.

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