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I think I just tanked an interview

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    Mik
    wrote on 27 Jul 2020, 23:15 last edited by Mik
    #80

    I'm seeing remote work as a national security issue. Do not think some hard-eyed folks world round have not seen first hand what this virus has done to weaken this country on a lot of fronts. It may or may not have been accidental this time but it doesn't mean it wont be intentional next.

    If we don't take major steps now while it is fresh to harden ourselves against future pandemic events we are very foolish.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 00:01 last edited by
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      @Aqua-Letifer Ok, you don’t feel comfortable going in unless there’s a vaccine. That’s your go to for the job, do explain that firmly but nicely. It’s not a matter for negotiation.

      Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

      The Brad

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      • L LuFins Dad
        28 Jul 2020, 00:01

        @Aqua-Letifer Ok, you don’t feel comfortable going in unless there’s a vaccine. That’s your go to for the job, do explain that firmly but nicely. It’s not a matter for negotiation.

        Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 00:08 last edited by
        #82

        @LuFins-Dad said in I think I just tanked an interview:

        Now, is there a chance that they would be willing to consider bringing you on as a short timer while they are still working from home?

        Good question, and one I'll definitely pose after the initial rejection. 👍

        Please love yourself.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 21:43 last edited by
          #83

          No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

          Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

          Now nothing.

          Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

          Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

          Please love yourself.

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            Mik
            wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 22:05 last edited by Mik
            #84

            I suspect they have to get some approval. It takes time.

            In the future I think you need to make your workplace expectations clear earlier on They may feel they invested a lot of time to come up on this now.

            Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • M Mik
              28 Jul 2020, 22:05

              I suspect they have to get some approval. It takes time.

              In the future I think you need to make your workplace expectations clear earlier on They may feel they invested a lot of time to come up on this now.

              Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 22:15 last edited by
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              @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

              Now me, by the third interview I would have been pressing for a decision. Eight interviews is ridiculous.

              They don't know how to deal with virtual interviews, so I give them some latitude there. They said they've never done this in the past with in-person interviews. Basically this is a company that runs out of three timezones who don't know how to work remotely. Hilarious.

              Please love yourself.

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                Mik
                wrote on 28 Jul 2020, 23:49 last edited by
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                I was thinking pathetic. It leads me to believe they put no thought into their workforce.

                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                  89th
                  wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 00:00 last edited by
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                  It’s weird how long their process is. Kinda is a red flag to me.

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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 00:10 last edited by Catseye3
                    #88

                    Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you and the universe are neither of you enormously excited about this opportunity.

                    Do you find that when you have to spend too much time thinking about whether or not to pursue a course, that you're kind of crowding out the passion?

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      28 Jul 2020, 21:43

                      No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

                      Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

                      Now nothing.

                      Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

                      Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

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                      brenda
                      wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:05 last edited by
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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                      No response! Either they're really mulling over their options or they've decided to ghost me. 😂

                      Absolutely hilarious. Five weeks for 8 interviews, a ton of back-and-forth in between each, I submitted 8 work samples, and sent a very nice email about the preemptive offer that outlined my request for remote work. No response. And I know for a fact they had no one else lined up. In the mind of my would-be boss and the CFO, this was pretty much a done deal.

                      Now nothing.

                      Man, if this is how they're going to handle it, I really dodged a bullet here.

                      Had a talk with a recruiter today about another position.

                      Did they give you a date for when they would give you a response? If not, then the extra time could be in your favor, especially if it's due to making changes to your employment agreement, such as the remote work status.

                      It's better to get a slow yes than a fast no. 🙂

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                        Rainman
                        wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:27 last edited by
                        #90

                        I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                        It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

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                        • R Rainman
                          29 Jul 2020, 01:27

                          I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                          It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

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                          mark
                          wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:28 last edited by
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                          @Rainman said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                          I have no advice, but I've been following along rooting for you, Aqua!

                          It's really not fair how these people are keeping all of us waiting. Call them up and tell them that!

                          +1

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 29 Jul 2020, 01:36 last edited by
                            #92

                            Most likely explanation is typical HR delay but the other not insignificant probability is that they suddenly cottoned on to the irreconcilable differences.

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                            • C Catseye3
                              29 Jul 2020, 00:10

                              Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you and the universe are neither of you enormously excited about this opportunity.

                              Do you find that when you have to spend too much time thinking about whether or not to pursue a course, that you're kind of crowding out the passion?

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                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 18:29 last edited by
                              #93

                              @Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                              Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you and the universe are neither of you enormously excited about this opportunity.

                              Do you find that when you have to spend too much time thinking about whether or not to pursue a course, that you're kind of crowding out the passion?

                              Well to be clear here, I don't want to work at this place. At all. I have no positive attachment to this job posting in any way. It'd be a paycheck.

                              "See Aqua, you can't go around with that kind of attitude, you've got to" blah blah I know that and that's correct, but look: the situation I'm in right now is very bad. Simply being treated respectfully at a job I hate would be a huge improvement over what I'm in now, so I don't give a shit. This is very much an "any port in the storm" type situation.

                              But apparently they'll make their decision on Friday. I'll tell you this, though: I absolutely would have landed the job had I not balked at coming in to the office. I'd put money on that.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Mik
                                wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 18:58 last edited by
                                #94

                                But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  30 Jul 2020, 18:29

                                  @Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                  Yeah, I'm getting the feeling that you and the universe are neither of you enormously excited about this opportunity.

                                  Do you find that when you have to spend too much time thinking about whether or not to pursue a course, that you're kind of crowding out the passion?

                                  Well to be clear here, I don't want to work at this place. At all. I have no positive attachment to this job posting in any way. It'd be a paycheck.

                                  "See Aqua, you can't go around with that kind of attitude, you've got to" blah blah I know that and that's correct, but look: the situation I'm in right now is very bad. Simply being treated respectfully at a job I hate would be a huge improvement over what I'm in now, so I don't give a shit. This is very much an "any port in the storm" type situation.

                                  But apparently they'll make their decision on Friday. I'll tell you this, though: I absolutely would have landed the job had I not balked at coming in to the office. I'd put money on that.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 19:02 last edited by
                                  #95

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                  Simply being treated respectfully at a job I hate would be a huge improvement over what I'm in now, so I don't give a shit.

                                  Very sorry to hear that. Big bummer, to need to escape a bad situation by going to a slightly less bad situation. 😖

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                    30 Jul 2020, 18:58

                                    But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 19:15 last edited by
                                    #96

                                    @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                    But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

                                    Yeah. And apparently a handful of folks have moved to different states throughout this mess, and there are another handful of people who are in very bad demographics for the virus and have told their managers they would not be at all comfortable with returning. I think leadership is now at least vaguely aware that they'd have a big problem on their hands if they forced people to return. So we're probably safe for a little while. I keep squirreling money away in case the hammer drops and they pull some shit with me regarding unemployment.

                                    Fun times.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • A Aqua Letifer
                                      30 Jul 2020, 19:15

                                      @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                      But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

                                      Yeah. And apparently a handful of folks have moved to different states throughout this mess, and there are another handful of people who are in very bad demographics for the virus and have told their managers they would not be at all comfortable with returning. I think leadership is now at least vaguely aware that they'd have a big problem on their hands if they forced people to return. So we're probably safe for a little while. I keep squirreling money away in case the hammer drops and they pull some shit with me regarding unemployment.

                                      Fun times.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 21:33 last edited by
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                      @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                      But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

                                      Yeah. And apparently a handful of folks have moved to different states throughout this mess, and there are another handful of people who are in very bad demographics for the virus and have told their managers they would not be at all comfortable with returning. I think leadership is now at least vaguely aware that they'd have a big problem on their hands if they forced people to return. So we're probably safe for a little while. I keep squirreling money away in case the hammer drops and they pull some shit with me regarding unemployment.

                                      Fun times.

                                      ‘He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune’. - Francis Bacon

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        30 Jul 2020, 21:33

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                        @Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                        But...that is not what you want or are willing to do. Your current position is not going to fire you. They already would have.

                                        Yeah. And apparently a handful of folks have moved to different states throughout this mess, and there are another handful of people who are in very bad demographics for the virus and have told their managers they would not be at all comfortable with returning. I think leadership is now at least vaguely aware that they'd have a big problem on their hands if they forced people to return. So we're probably safe for a little while. I keep squirreling money away in case the hammer drops and they pull some shit with me regarding unemployment.

                                        Fun times.

                                        ‘He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune’. - Francis Bacon

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                                        Aqua Letifer
                                        wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 22:42 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                        ‘He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune’. - Francis Bacon

                                        Meh. I don't really buy that.

                                        Life's got a handful of plates on sticks. Gotta keep 'em all spinning at a rate you're happy with, and that'll change over time.

                                        I hate my working life these days but I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and do nothing to change it. Expect weird updates in the next 18 months.

                                        Please love yourself.

                                        George KG 1 Reply Last reply 30 Jul 2020, 22:45
                                        • A Aqua Letifer
                                          30 Jul 2020, 22:42

                                          @Jolly said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                          ‘He that hath wife and children hath given hostages to fortune’. - Francis Bacon

                                          Meh. I don't really buy that.

                                          Life's got a handful of plates on sticks. Gotta keep 'em all spinning at a rate you're happy with, and that'll change over time.

                                          I hate my working life these days but I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and do nothing to change it. Expect weird updates in the next 18 months.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 30 Jul 2020, 22:45 last edited by
                                          #99

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:

                                          Expect weird updates in the next 18 months.

                                          As if the last 16 years have been "normal."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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