I think I just tanked an interview
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Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway. Just stand firm that what you are looking for is a remote position, that you are accustomed to working that way and they will find your participation and steady availability satisfactory. Otherwise you will find yourself right back where you are today.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 00:18 last edited by@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway. Just stand firm that what you are looking for is a remote position, that you are accustomed to working that way and they will find your participation and steady availability satisfactory. Otherwise you will find yourself right back where you are today.
Good points. This is one of these things that I just do not know how to couch properly.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 04:58 last edited by
Agree ... if your bottom line is to have no requirement to go into the office, then stick to it. Offering to work cheaper won’t help you anyway if their bottom line is to have some one physically in the office.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 06:29 last edited by
And you start off by giving up power.
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Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway. Just stand firm that what you are looking for is a remote position, that you are accustomed to working that way and they will find your participation and steady availability satisfactory. Otherwise you will find yourself right back where you are today.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 12:07 last edited by@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway.
Yep.
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@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Never offer to give up money. They really don't care about that anyway.
Yep.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 12:13 last edited byI still don’t know why the CFO is on the call? It’s interesting.
Like he is going to suss out whether they should move forward with Aqua?
Heck maybe he wants the office closed and go full remote to save money.
Or he’s the closer that will talk Aqua into something.
Or he’s a shaman who can divine stuff we can’t see.
Or he’s like for Christ sake you wusses who can’t make a decision let me handle it.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 12:54 last edited by
Or he's there because it's a small company that wants to appear bigger.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:08 last edited by
@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
And you start off by giving up power.
Well as a side note, I don't give any kind of a crap about this position. At all. I would not be there long if I got hired; I'm just in an "any port in the storm" type situation with my current job. I'd quit right this second if this was any kind of a normal year.
So, I don't really care about the money. Whatever they think the bottom might be, I could go lower.
As for the CFO thing, all I can figure is, we'll talk salary? I'm also apparently talking to the CRO right after on Skype. (What the hell is a CRO?)
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@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
And you start off by giving up power.
Well as a side note, I don't give any kind of a crap about this position. At all. I would not be there long if I got hired; I'm just in an "any port in the storm" type situation with my current job. I'd quit right this second if this was any kind of a normal year.
So, I don't really care about the money. Whatever they think the bottom might be, I could go lower.
As for the CFO thing, all I can figure is, we'll talk salary? I'm also apparently talking to the CRO right after on Skype. (What the hell is a CRO?)
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:14 last edited by Catseye3@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
(What the hell is a CRO?)
You gotta ask??? Chief Racial Officer, of course.
It should have been Chief Race Relations Officer, but that would've screwed up the symmetry on the letterhead.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:15 last edited by
Chief Revenue Officer
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
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wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:31 last edited by
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
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Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:46 last edited by@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
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@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:50 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
Interesting ... does that company actually develop the SaaS crap the sell, does it play more of a "system integrator" role, or does it merely "resell" some one else's SaaS products then maybe fulfill some service contracts later?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
Interesting ... does that company actually develop the SaaS crap the sell, does it play more of a "system integrator" role, or does it merely "resell" some one else's SaaS products then maybe fulfill some service contracts later?
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:52 last edited by@Axtremus said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Interesting ... does that company actually develop the SaaS crap the sell, does it play more of a "system integrator" role, or does it merely "resell" some one else's SaaS products then maybe fulfill some service contracts later?
Development and at least a little bit of "system integrator" is how it currently sounds.
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Chief Revenue Officer
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 13:57 last edited by@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
It's not even 10AM and this morning I've had to cover for my boss and do his job with front-end development. I had to cover for him because he was in an unscheduled meeting. And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it. My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling." This has been going on for an hour.
It's 2020. Another Great Depression is highly probable if not imminent. My motivation right now is getting the fuck out in a way that doesn't put me in financial trouble. That's going to have to be motivation enough.
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@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
It's not even 10AM and this morning I've had to cover for my boss and do his job with front-end development. I had to cover for him because he was in an unscheduled meeting. And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it. My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling." This has been going on for an hour.
It's 2020. Another Great Depression is highly probable if not imminent. My motivation right now is getting the fuck out in a way that doesn't put me in financial trouble. That's going to have to be motivation enough.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 15:09 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it.
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@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
It's not even 10AM and this morning I've had to cover for my boss and do his job with front-end development. I had to cover for him because he was in an unscheduled meeting. And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it. My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling." This has been going on for an hour.
It's 2020. Another Great Depression is highly probable if not imminent. My motivation right now is getting the fuck out in a way that doesn't put me in financial trouble. That's going to have to be motivation enough.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 15:28 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
wrote on 21 Jul 2020, 15:54 last edited by@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 14:52 last edited by
Chat with CFO guy went well. He said he's already going to recommend me. No talk at all about the remote work thing, but he did clue me in to why everyone's so disjointed: for an American company they sure do act pretty Japanese. They used to be three companies, and they're all completely different from one another and in different time zones. And these acquisitions are so new that the employees are just now wrapping their heads around the idea that they're part of a bigger organization. Because of that, I think I can make a pretty good case that for my position, there'd be no incentive at all in working in an office, unless they plan on flying me around all the damn time to talk to these other people in person, which of course they won't, that'd be silly.
Meeting with the other C later today. She's been there for only three months so I don't anticipate a hard interview.
Looks like the Hard Word is going to happen once I finally talk to the HR person again about brass tacks in the employment offer.
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@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 15:32 last edited by@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
Are you absolutely 100% sure your bosses boss isn't POTUS?
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wrote on 24 Jul 2020, 15:37 last edited by