I think I just tanked an interview
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@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Mik said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Is this a nonprofit that relies on fundraising? That's the only situation I could see where these financial guys would be interested.
Nope, private company. Apparently they sell SaaS crap to hospitals?
Interesting ... does that company actually develop the SaaS crap the sell, does it play more of a "system integrator" role, or does it merely "resell" some one else's SaaS products then maybe fulfill some service contracts later?
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@Axtremus said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Interesting ... does that company actually develop the SaaS crap the sell, does it play more of a "system integrator" role, or does it merely "resell" some one else's SaaS products then maybe fulfill some service contracts later?
Development and at least a little bit of "system integrator" is how it currently sounds.
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@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
It's not even 10AM and this morning I've had to cover for my boss and do his job with front-end development. I had to cover for him because he was in an unscheduled meeting. And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it. My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling." This has been going on for an hour.
It's 2020. Another Great Depression is highly probable if not imminent. My motivation right now is getting the fuck out in a way that doesn't put me in financial trouble. That's going to have to be motivation enough.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Don’t go there. I can tell there is no motivational fit. Not good for either of you.
And by meeting, I mean that he was told that he has to keep calling the department head because he lost his phone, either in his bed or the couch cushions, and he wanted my boss to keep calling him until he found it.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
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@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
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Chat with CFO guy went well. He said he's already going to recommend me. No talk at all about the remote work thing, but he did clue me in to why everyone's so disjointed: for an American company they sure do act pretty Japanese. They used to be three companies, and they're all completely different from one another and in different time zones. And these acquisitions are so new that the employees are just now wrapping their heads around the idea that they're part of a bigger organization. Because of that, I think I can make a pretty good case that for my position, there'd be no incentive at all in working in an office, unless they plan on flying me around all the damn time to talk to these other people in person, which of course they won't, that'd be silly.
Meeting with the other C later today. She's been there for only three months so I don't anticipate a hard interview.
Looks like the Hard Word is going to happen once I finally talk to the HR person again about brass tacks in the employment offer.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
Are you absolutely 100% sure your bosses boss isn't POTUS?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Catseye3 said in I think I just tanked an interview:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I think I just tanked an interview:
My boss keeps getting emails like, "Haven't found it." "Keep calling, I can't hear it." "Are you still calling?" "Keep calling."
That is absolutely . . . forget it; there are no words for what that is. In an adult.
That's today.
Every day is something. Every single.
Are you absolutely 100% sure your bosses boss isn't POTUS?
Oh trust me. He absolutely thinks that he is. This isn't The Office. My job is like a love child between Wes Anderson and David Lynch.
Another update: My boss is in the final stages of a job offer as well. It's for a startup-ish place (new, but not so new that they don't actually have revenue money coming in to pay for their existence). They're asking for him to build out his team. He said there'd be a position there for me if he gets the job.
So if Crazy Place gives me an offer and they don't give me any shit about remote work, I'll tell them I need a 2-week buffer to start work, so I can wait to hear back about my boss's thing.
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@Aqua-Letifer that is awesome!!!
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that's great!
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Highly entertaining thread. Not surprised though that Aqua pulls through, I see a pattern here.
I don’t believe remote will be an issue in terms of them rescinding an offer.
What will be very funny is if you end up ghosting them anyway after the offer comes.
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@Loki said in I think I just tanked an interview:
Highly entertaining thread. Not surprised though that Aqua pulls through, I see a pattern here.
I don’t believe remote will be an issue in terms of them rescinding an offer.
What will be very funny is if you end up ghosting them anyway after the offer comes.
At this point, that's the most probable outcome! I'm not out of the woods yet, though.
Had a video chat with the final C at the end of the day today, by the way. The woman was singularly hung up on the necessity to wrap your head around technical information. So I said I'm comfortable with that, and have a lot of experience having to do so.
"What I'm saying here is that disseminating technical information is very important."
"Understood and I agree, it seems pretty central to the job and the needs you have in the department."
"I guess what I'm saying is, you need to explain technical information to a non-expert audience, that's probably the biggest asset we're looking for. How do you go about doing that in your work today?"
"..............Well I think it's important to be flexible, after you have a handle on the material. Finding a handful of different ways to explain the same thing, for example, is a good practice, in case you have to readjust after not making your message clear the first time around."
I couldn't help it. She seemed not to pick up on it.
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Got a pre-emptive offer. Doesn't look good. Here are the salient points:
I'd be remote for awhile, but:
- I'd have to pick up all my equipment at the office. (Which is weird, because my current office, backwards as it is, has embraced adoption of the U.S. mail as part of its workflow.)
- I might be asked to come in from time to time for training, orientation, etc.
Once they fully open the office, which they don't say when or how they'd even determine when, I'd have to go in. - This is my favorite: they were in the middle of developing some work from home day policies, but that's been postponed due to the pandemic. (I would argue that because everyone's working remotely right now, they already have a policy in place.)
Looking like a no-go, because I seriously doubt they're going to be at all flexible, but I'm having trouble knowing how to pose questions. Is it reasonable to:
- Just reaffirm with them, once again, that my boss, his boss, and the CEO are all remote, always have been remote, and will continue to be remote after the office opens back up.
- Ask them why they're incapable of mailing things or using, I don't know, any video software for mandatory meetings.
The actual offer's pretty decent, other than, y'know, this bullshit.