Trump to be indicted - again.

[Jolly]

In most countries...Unequal treatment under the law is sowing the seeds of upheaval and revolution.

[LuFins Dad]

@taiwan_girl Ignorance of the Law is no defense in almost all cases, but the difference between a misdemeanor and Espionage Charges is specifically about intent, which presupposes awareness of the law, but even more, it presupposes purpose. Espionage implies a nefarious purpose. That’s a hard row to hoe in this case…

[taiwan_girl]

@LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

[LuFins Dad]

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

@LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

But there are charges that I don’t see him being able to walk away from… Obstruction…

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

@taiwan_girl said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

@LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

But there are charges that I don’t see him being able to walk away from… Obstruction…

That will be the hardest one. But Trump or no, I have a really hard time seeing obstruction charges against anybody for a crime that doesn't exist. Gotcha law is bad law and carries a whiff of Stalinism.

[Jon]

Jolly you need to get out of your right wing fantasy land echo chamber.

[Jolly]

Yes sir, Biden Boy.

[Jon]

@taiwan_girl

Jack Smith has another charge, a very serious one, he could bring in New Jersey.

NJ, where Trump’s summer home is, is where he was caught on tape showing highly classified documents to journalists with no clearance at all. He goes on to say that he could have declassified the docs as president but didn’t, so they’re still secret. Literally. On tape.

[Jolly]

Now, depends on what the tape shows. If Trump is just waving a paper and the person in the room is unable to read it as Trump is talking did you know that does not meet the legal standard of passing on classified information?

Go look up the statute.

[Jon]

We shall see.

The great thing about stories with so many witnesses is they’ve heavily disincentivized not to lie to the FBI.

[Jolly]

True. The FBI seems to be the only person or entity lying nowadays...

[LuFins Dad]

[Jon]

Yeah but Ben Shapiro is a libtard rino msnbc hack. Every real American knows trumps behavior was perfect and this is all a plant by the deep state.

[Jon]

And the real Americans are having none of it.

[George K]

Bill Barr: The Truth About the Trump Indictment

https://www.thefp.com/p/bill-barr-the-truth-about-the-trump

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

From the RWEC:

The first rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case. And the second rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case, period. You hire a good lawyer or two and let them talk about your case in public. The surest way to help the prosecution is to go on television and make a damaging admission about the key element of a charge.

Sort of like … this:

[Doctor Phibes]

More 5D chess.

[Jolly]

Trump is Trump.

He's very transparent.

[George K]

@Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

He's very transparent.

Another way of saying that might be "thin skinned."

[Jolly]

That, too.