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    Jolly
    wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 03:03 last edited by
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    In most countries...Unequal treatment under the law is sowing the seeds of upheaval and revolution.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 03:09 last edited by
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      @taiwan_girl Ignorance of the Law is no defense in almost all cases, but the difference between a misdemeanor and Espionage Charges is specifically about intent, which presupposes awareness of the law, but even more, it presupposes purpose. Espionage implies a nefarious purpose. That’s a hard row to hoe in this case…

      The Brad

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        17 Jun 2023, 03:09

        @taiwan_girl Ignorance of the Law is no defense in almost all cases, but the difference between a misdemeanor and Espionage Charges is specifically about intent, which presupposes awareness of the law, but even more, it presupposes purpose. Espionage implies a nefarious purpose. That’s a hard row to hoe in this case…

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        wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 03:21 last edited by
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        @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

        I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

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          17 Jun 2023, 03:21

          @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

          I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 03:47 last edited by
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          @taiwan_girl said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

          @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

          I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

          But there are charges that I don’t see him being able to walk away from… Obstruction…

          The Brad

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            17 Jun 2023, 03:47

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

            @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

            I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

            But there are charges that I don’t see him being able to walk away from… Obstruction…

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            Jolly
            wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 12:03 last edited by
            #112

            @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

            @taiwan_girl said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

            @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

            I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

            But there are charges that I don’t see him being able to walk away from… Obstruction…

            That will be the hardest one. But Trump or no, I have a really hard time seeing obstruction charges against anybody for a crime that doesn't exist. Gotcha law is bad law and carries a whiff of Stalinism.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              Jon
              wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 14:26 last edited by
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              Jolly you need to get out of your right wing fantasy land echo chamber.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 14:28 last edited by
                #114

                Yes sir, Biden Boy.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  17 Jun 2023, 03:21

                  @LuFins-Dad I believe that there is about a 0% chance President Trump will be convicted. i think that there will at least be one person on the jury (I assume this would be a jury case) who would vote against conviction no matter what.

                  I think with 12 people, the odds will be pretty good.

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                  Jon
                  wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 14:29 last edited by
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                  @taiwan_girl

                  Jack Smith has another charge, a very serious one, he could bring in New Jersey.

                  NJ, where Trump’s summer home is, is where he was caught on tape showing highly classified documents to journalists with no clearance at all. He goes on to say that he could have declassified the docs as president but didn’t, so they’re still secret. Literally. On tape.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 14:34 last edited by
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                    Now, depends on what the tape shows. If Trump is just waving a paper and the person in the room is unable to read it as Trump is talking did you know that does not meet the legal standard of passing on classified information?

                    Go look up the statute.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      Jon
                      wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 21:34 last edited by
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                      We shall see.

                      The great thing about stories with so many witnesses is they’ve heavily disincentivized not to lie to the FBI.

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 17 Jun 2023, 21:36 last edited by
                        #118

                        True. The FBI seems to be the only person or entity lying nowadays...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 03:03 last edited by
                          #119

                          The Brad

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                            Jon
                            wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 03:39 last edited by
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                            Yeah but Ben Shapiro is a libtard rino msnbc hack. Every real American knows trumps behavior was perfect and this is all a plant by the deep state.

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                              Jon
                              wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 03:42 last edited by
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                              And the real Americans are having none of it.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 12:11 last edited by
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                                Bill Barr: The Truth About the Trump Indictment

                                https://www.thefp.com/p/bill-barr-the-truth-about-the-trump

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  20 Jun 2023, 03:03

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 12:26 last edited by
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                                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

                                  From the RWEC:

                                  The first rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case. And the second rule of Federal Indictment Club is: you don’t talk about your case, period. You hire a good lawyer or two and let them talk about your case in public. The surest way to help the prosecution is to go on television and make a damaging admission about the key element of a charge.

                                  Sort of like … this:

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 12:29 last edited by
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                                    More 5D chess.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 12:29 last edited by
                                      #125

                                      Trump is Trump.

                                      He's very transparent.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        20 Jun 2023, 12:29

                                        Trump is Trump.

                                        He's very transparent.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:05 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in Trump to be indicted - again.:

                                        He's very transparent.

                                        Another way of saying that might be "thin skinned."

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 20 Jun 2023, 13:16 last edited by
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                                          That, too.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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