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I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.

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    Mik
    wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 12:51 last edited by
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    Walking, breathing clickbait. A renaissance man for the Tik-Tok era.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 13:03 last edited by
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      There is some irony in the fact that the two highest profile Kennedys to make it to old age are this guy and Teddy.

      I was only joking

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      • M Mik
        7 Jun 2023, 12:51

        Walking, breathing clickbait. A renaissance man for the Tik-Tok era.

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 13:07 last edited by
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        @Mik said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

        Walking, breathing clickbait. A renaissance man for the Tik-Tok era.

        Exactly right, and just think of the possibilities. Can you imagine an RFK/Trump debate?

        I'm gonna start implying that he's who I'm voting for to steer a shitty conversation over to something far more interesting. I'd have to find a way to support anti-vaxxer nuttery and conspiracies involving ancient astronauts, just for a start. It'd be dodging lazer beams.

        Please love yourself.

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        • A Aqua Letifer
          7 Jun 2023, 13:07

          @Mik said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

          Walking, breathing clickbait. A renaissance man for the Tik-Tok era.

          Exactly right, and just think of the possibilities. Can you imagine an RFK/Trump debate?

          I'm gonna start implying that he's who I'm voting for to steer a shitty conversation over to something far more interesting. I'd have to find a way to support anti-vaxxer nuttery and conspiracies involving ancient astronauts, just for a start. It'd be dodging lazer beams.

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          Renauda
          wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 13:17 last edited by
          #7

          @Aqua-Letifer

          Ancient astronaut theorists say yes…..

          Elbows up!

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            Jolly
            wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 13:20 last edited by
            #8

            Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • J Jolly
              7 Jun 2023, 13:20

              Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 13:47 last edited by Aqua Letifer 6 Jul 2023, 13:50
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              @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

              Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

              I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

              I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

              His campaign messaging platform strategy is interesting, too. He'll be in places people who vote will listen, but not the "media" as we define it.

              C'mon you crazy bastard don't fuck this up!

              Please love yourself.

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                Jon
                wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:07 last edited by Jon 6 Jul 2023, 14:07
                #10

                How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?

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                • J Jon
                  7 Jun 2023, 14:07

                  How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:13 last edited by
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                  @Jon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                  How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?

                  Not entirely impossible, either.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    Horace
                    wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:15 last edited by
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                    He was on Peterson's podcast last week. His voice is nails on a chalkboard but he's more or less sensible. Too bad about the handful of wacky ideas.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:22 last edited by
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                      He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?

                      The Brad

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                      • H Horace
                        7 Jun 2023, 14:15

                        He was on Peterson's podcast last week. His voice is nails on a chalkboard but he's more or less sensible. Too bad about the handful of wacky ideas.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:27 last edited by
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                        @Horace said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                        His voice is nails on a chalkboard

                        https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/11/08/robert-kennedy-jr-voice/

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • J Jon
                          7 Jun 2023, 14:07

                          How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:46 last edited by
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                          @Jon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                          How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?

                          It used to be Carnivore. What's the current program called?

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
                            7 Jun 2023, 14:22

                            He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?

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                            Jon
                            wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 14:47 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                            He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?

                            Probably nothing he could do. To my knowledge no sitting president has participated in primary debates.

                            Even Carter didn’t when Teddy challenged him.

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                              7 Jun 2023, 13:47

                              @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                              Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

                              I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

                              I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

                              His campaign messaging platform strategy is interesting, too. He'll be in places people who vote will listen, but not the "media" as we define it.

                              C'mon you crazy bastard don't fuck this up!

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                              Doctor Phibes
                              wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 15:15 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                              @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                              Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

                              I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

                              I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

                              That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

                              I was only joking

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                              • D Doctor Phibes
                                7 Jun 2023, 15:15

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

                                I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

                                I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

                                That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 15:22 last edited by
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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

                                I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

                                I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

                                That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

                                In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • A Aqua Letifer
                                  7 Jun 2023, 15:22

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                  @Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                  Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.

                                  I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…

                                  I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.

                                  That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"

                                  In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

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                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on 7 Jun 2023, 17:00 last edited by
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                  In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"

                                  That's presumably because in Australia it's never just one sheep.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    xenon
                                    wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 20:21 last edited by xenon
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                                    I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                                    He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

                                    I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

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                                    • X xenon
                                      21 Jun 2023, 20:21

                                      I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                                      He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.

                                      I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 20:38 last edited by
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                                      @xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:

                                      he’s supposed to be a loony toon.

                                      Stuff in the water is making people trans-gender.

                                      Thimerosol causes autism.

                                      There are bioweapons that only target certain races.

                                      The 2004 presidential election was stolen

                                      CIA killed his uncle

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 20:45 last edited by
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                                        I'll give him 2/5.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          xenon
                                          wrote on 21 Jun 2023, 20:51 last edited by xenon
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                                          I haven’t heard him talk about most of those. My point was not that I think he’s right - but he spoke with enough detail about his claims that if they’re obviously wrong, someone sufficiently diligent should be able to debunk them.

                                          Normally I wouldn’t recommend debunking internet kooks - but if he’s polling as the #2 democrat, there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.

                                          George KG 1 Reply Last reply 21 Jun 2023, 21:00
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