I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.
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He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?
The Brad
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He was on Peterson's podcast last week. His voice is nails on a chalkboard but he's more or less sensible. Too bad about the handful of wacky ideas.
@Horace said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
His voice is nails on a chalkboard
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2021/11/08/robert-kennedy-jr-voice/
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How fucking awesome would it be if someone took him out on live TV on the eve of the California primary?
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He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?
@LuFins-Dad said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
He’s actually polling at 17%… What does he need to accomplish to force a debate?
Probably nothing he could do. To my knowledge no sitting president has participated in primary debates.
Even Carter didn’t when Teddy challenged him.
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@Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.
I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…
I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.
His campaign messaging platform strategy is interesting, too. He'll be in places people who vote will listen, but not the "media" as we define it.
C'mon you crazy bastard don't fuck this up!
@Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.
I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…
I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.
That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"
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@Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.
I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…
I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.
That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"
@Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.
I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…
I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.
That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"
In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"
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@Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
@Jolly said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
Hey, I'm all for him. Besides the nuttery, there are some pearls in there worthy of a national debate.
I mean I dunno, he’s against affirmative action, against forcing businesses to sell products that conflict with their religious beliefs, against “gender identity” anti-discrimination laws, against children receiving gender-transitioning treatments and surgeries, against a tiered evaluation system for women in the military, against special treatment for minority-owned businesses…
I hope he talks that stuff up rather than the nuttery but I'm not holding my breath.
That kind of reminds me of the old joke with the punchline "It was just one sheep!"
In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"
@Aqua-Letifer said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
In Australia, it goes more along the lines of, "It was just one Maccas!"
That's presumably because in Australia it's never just one sheep.
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I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.
I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.
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I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.
I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.
@xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
Stuff in the water is making people trans-gender.
Thimerosol causes autism.
There are bioweapons that only target certain races.
The 2004 presidential election was stolen
CIA killed his uncle
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I haven’t heard him talk about most of those. My point was not that I think he’s right - but he spoke with enough detail about his claims that if they’re obviously wrong, someone sufficiently diligent should be able to debunk them.
Normally I wouldn’t recommend debunking internet kooks - but if he’s polling as the #2 democrat, there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.
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I haven’t heard him talk about most of those. My point was not that I think he’s right - but he spoke with enough detail about his claims that if they’re obviously wrong, someone sufficiently diligent should be able to debunk them.
Normally I wouldn’t recommend debunking internet kooks - but if he’s polling as the #2 democrat, there’s lots of incentive for journalists to do it.
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I'm thinking of signing up as a democrat just to vote for him in the primaries.
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I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.
I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.
@xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.
I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.
The real difference is that he's articulate. Alex Jones is a crass buffoon. RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.
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@xenon said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
I listened to him on Rogan and Barry Weiss’ podcasts. I knew next to nothing about him before this - except that he’s supposed to be a loony toon.
He is not an Alex Jones like figure - which I completely expected going in. He’s a reasoned person with very thought through positions.
I don’t know nearly enough on immunology and biology to check his claims on vaccines. But he makes very specific claims based on specific studies. If his claims are garbage they should not be difficult to debunk.
The real difference is that he's articulate. Alex Jones is a crass buffoon. RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.
@Doctor-Phibes said in I hope RFK Jr. sticks around for awhile.:
RFK sounds as though he knows what he's talking about, but he's actually talking bollocks a lot of the time.
If you can't blind them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit.
