Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?
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And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
@jon-nyc said in Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?:
And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
Did not read article carefully. Heart attack and stroke patients are way down in health systems, it’s been noted as a mystery. Where these cases accounted for in the analysis.
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@jon-nyc said in Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?:
And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
Did not read article carefully. Heart attack and stroke patients are way down in health systems, it’s been noted as a mystery. Where these cases accounted for in the analysis.
Where have all the heart attacks gone?
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That's one nasty case of the flu!
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In 2016 44,000 people died of heart disease in NY, that is 120 a day. I suspect heart disease wouldn’t capture the entire denominator.
@Loki What's exponential growth factor of heart disease?
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Loki - you already said that the most of the known COVID dead would have died soon enough from their co-morbidity. Are you trying to count the heart patients in both groups now?
@jon-nyc said in Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?:
Loki - you already said that the most of the known COVID dead would have died soon enough from their co-morbidity. Are you trying to count the heart patients in both groups now?
I don’t have a point of view on this, just sharing data.
I think people are being undercounted but my gut is it’s not game changing from a data analysis point of view.
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FDNY (runs EMS):
“A year ago – same time frame – we were seeing an average of 54-74 cardiac arrest calls per day, with 22-32 deaths,” the Fire Department said in a statement. “Now, in this pandemic, we are seeing more than 300 cardiac arrest calls each day, with well over 200 people dying each day.”
Certainly consistent with the first person story George posted the other day.
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FDNY (runs EMS):
“A year ago – same time frame – we were seeing an average of 54-74 cardiac arrest calls per day, with 22-32 deaths,” the Fire Department said in a statement. “Now, in this pandemic, we are seeing more than 300 cardiac arrest calls each day, with well over 200 people dying each day.”
Certainly consistent with the first person story George posted the other day.
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And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
@jon-nyc
Yes, I noted this in one of the earlier articles you posted, and that article made me wonder how many COVID deaths were not reported when the death was at home. It's hard to track, but this gives at least something to work from for info. I'm not surprised that another aricle gives it more direct attention.The same thing happened in Italy, so it's not a surprise to see it here, too.
