Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?
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And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
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Dr. Irwin Redlener, the director of Columbia University's National Center for Disaster Preparedness, called the discrepancy “a subset of the whole testing fiasco“.
That’s a good way of looking at it.
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@jon-nyc said in Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?:
And part of this could be the answer to the question ‘where are the heart attacks?’
Apparently deaths at home in NYC are hitting 200 a day, normal is 20 or 25.
There has been much reporting on a similar phenomenon in Italy.
Did not read article carefully. Heart attack and stroke patients are way down in health systems, it’s been noted as a mystery. Where these cases accounted for in the analysis.
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Yeah that was my first question in the first post.
But 200 a day?
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That's one nasty case of the flu!
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Loki - you already said that the most of the known COVID dead would have died soon enough from their co-morbidity. Are you trying to count the heart patients in both groups now?
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@jon-nyc said in Significant undercount of deaths in NYC?:
Loki - you already said that the most of the known COVID dead would have died soon enough from their co-morbidity. Are you trying to count the heart patients in both groups now?
I don’t have a point of view on this, just sharing data.
I think people are being undercounted but my gut is it’s not game changing from a data analysis point of view.
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FDNY (runs EMS):
“A year ago – same time frame – we were seeing an average of 54-74 cardiac arrest calls per day, with 22-32 deaths,” the Fire Department said in a statement. “Now, in this pandemic, we are seeing more than 300 cardiac arrest calls each day, with well over 200 people dying each day.”
Certainly consistent with the first person story George posted the other day.
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@jon-nyc
Yes, I noted this in one of the earlier articles you posted, and that article made me wonder how many COVID deaths were not reported when the death was at home. It's hard to track, but this gives at least something to work from for info. I'm not surprised that another aricle gives it more direct attention.The same thing happened in Italy, so it's not a surprise to see it here, too.
