Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science
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I mean if we're all going to wear masks, we might as well cover ourselves in gauze, douse our bodies with iodine and live in an iron lung for the rest of our lives because it's exactly the same thing. Next thing you know they're going to be coming for our guns.
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As Tom Hanks said, wearing a mask really is the least you can do.
And saying 'we're going to have to wear one for ever' is the exact same logic that gave us 'it's not as bad as the flu'.
There's a pandemic. We need to behave differently. This too shall pass.
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The issue is that you will inevitably end up accepting the same category of risks, as society eventually returns to not wearing masks, but then, by some unidentifiable magic that has little to do with anything other than the messaging you're exposed to, you will think it's proper. Or maybe you will go to your grave thinking everybody should be wearing masks.
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After everybody else stops wearing them, and in the presence of undeniable communicable disease risk, mask advocates are welcome to keep wearing masks, forever, and they are also welcome to stratify the rest of society into virtue levels depending on the date at which each individual chooses to stop wearing a mask while shopping.
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I've got better things to do than listen to this.
Have a nice day.
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@Rainman said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
It's weird to meet someone, naturally going to shake hands, and then pull back knowing that all of us alive now, will be the last people that shook hands as part of social discourse.
"Grandpa, tell me about that thing where you hold a stranger's hand and pump it up and down. What was wrong with people back then?"
I still shake hands if they are good with it.
Then I scream and douse them with hand sanitizer. Then light the hand sanitizer on fire and shout "Bad touch! Bad touch! Bad touch!"
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Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.
Good to know!
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Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?
We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
We all have different goals. Mine is to avoid contracting Covid-19 from some stupid fuck who refuses to wear a mask because it would somehow affect his liberty.
That’s pretty much mine too.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?
We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.
Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.
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@Aqua-Letifer said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
@LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?
We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.
Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.
What is that?
It is a legit question. If we should wear masks to prevent some covid, why not prevent everything?
What is the limit?
I understand that Trump people wear fewer masks and Biden people love masks. cnn and fox made all that clear a long time ago.
But the question remains.
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If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.
What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.
And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.
What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.
And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.
But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.
What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.
And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.
That may not be an accurate portrayal of what people here have been "consistently" posting.
There should be room in the discussion for those who raise a few questions to the virtuous noises about saving lives at any cost. But I don't really think you want to have a discussion that allows for that room.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:
If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.
What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.
And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.
You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...