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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #72

    I've got better things to do than listen to this.

    Have a nice day.

    I was only joking

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    • RainmanR Rainman

      It's weird to meet someone, naturally going to shake hands, and then pull back knowing that all of us alive now, will be the last people that shook hands as part of social discourse.

      "Grandpa, tell me about that thing where you hold a stranger's hand and pump it up and down. What was wrong with people back then?"

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on last edited by
      #73

      @Rainman said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

      It's weird to meet someone, naturally going to shake hands, and then pull back knowing that all of us alive now, will be the last people that shook hands as part of social discourse.

      "Grandpa, tell me about that thing where you hold a stranger's hand and pump it up and down. What was wrong with people back then?"

      I still shake hands if they are good with it.

      Then I scream and douse them with hand sanitizer. Then light the hand sanitizer on fire and shout "Bad touch! Bad touch! Bad touch!"

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #74

        Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

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          Rainman
          wrote on last edited by
          #75

          @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

          Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

          Good to know!
          I think I'll start doing that as well.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #76

            Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

            We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

            The Brad

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              We all have different goals. Mine is to avoid contracting Covid-19 from some stupid fuck who refuses to wear a mask because it would somehow affect his liberty.

              MikM Away
              MikM Away
              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #77

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

              We all have different goals. Mine is to avoid contracting Covid-19 from some stupid fuck who refuses to wear a mask because it would somehow affect his liberty.

              That’s pretty much mine too.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #78

                @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                Please love yourself.

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                  Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                  We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                  Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                  CopperC Online
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                  Copper
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                  #79

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                  Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                  We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                  Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                  What is that?

                  It is a legit question. If we should wear masks to prevent some covid, why not prevent everything?

                  What is the limit?

                  I understand that Trump people wear fewer masks and Biden people love masks. cnn and fox made all that clear a long time ago.

                  But the question remains.

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                    Horace
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                    #80

                    Seemed like an accurate description of my points.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
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                      #81

                      Bad mood Sunday I guess.
                      Except me. Fat, happy, bubbly, joyous, and other BS.

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #82

                        If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                        What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                        And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                          LarryL Offline
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                          Larry
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #83

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                          But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                            What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                            And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #84

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                            If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                            What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                            And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                            That may not be an accurate portrayal of what people here have been "consistently" posting.

                            There should be room in the discussion for those who raise a few questions to the virtuous noises about saving lives at any cost. But I don't really think you want to have a discussion that allows for that room.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                              What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                              And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #85

                              @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                              If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                              What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                              And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                              You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • LarryL Larry

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor PhibesD Online
                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #86

                                @Larry said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

                                The death rate may have reduced, however I fear that won't last. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, but I sure don't want to bet on it.

                                I was only joking

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                                • AxtremusA Away
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                                  Axtremus
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                                  I visited Taiwan, South Korea, and Japan, years before COVID-19. Even then it was quite common to see people there wore masks. The people there have somehow developed the social norm of wearing masks whenever they were sick with the common flu. I don’t think there was a government mandate for them to wear mask, but there was enough public health education and awareness that the people there generally accept that wearing a mask when one is sick with an illness that can infect others through coughs and sneezes is the right thing to do. This seems rather logical and need not be politicized as we have done here.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                    If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                    What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                    And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                    You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

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                                    Aqua Letifer
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                                    #88

                                    @Jolly said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                    If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                    What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                    And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                    You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                    Absolutely not the case here. I'm not "safety at any cost." I said it before: for 4th of July weekend, there was a sea of people out and about and after making a few passes in my car, I counted 12 motherfuckers wearing masks out of thousands. That's it. I'm not advocating "safety at any cost," I'm saying it's disgusting how many people in this and other areas are doing absolutely, positively nothing apparent to keep themselves and others safe.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      Catseye3
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                                      Same here, Aqua. Smaller scale -- in my local mom n' pop store. Very few wearing masks, but there seemed to be a lot of respect for the six-foot distancing.

                                      One thing I've noticed. I've visited this store for years, know the staff and etc to nod to. But wearing the mask, I felt a kind of shunning. Not actual shunning, but like I'd turned into a stranger that they didn't particularly want to get to know.

                                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                        If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                        What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                        And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                        You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
                                        Doctor Phibes
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #90

                                        @Jolly said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                        If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                        What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                        And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                        You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                        The thing is, I'm not at all police-state about it all. I'm happy for people to follow social distancing guidelines and not wear a mask if they can maintain that. MA has done a pretty good job of reducing the infection rate, although it's creeping.

                                        I also don't believe that we should put our lives on hold, but believe that we should be capable of demonstrating some level of self-restraint. The idea that it should be business-as-usual is unsustainable.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Jolly said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                          You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                          Absolutely not the case here. I'm not "safety at any cost." I said it before: for 4th of July weekend, there was a sea of people out and about and after making a few passes in my car, I counted 12 motherfuckers wearing masks out of thousands. That's it. I'm not advocating "safety at any cost," I'm saying it's disgusting how many people in this and other areas are doing absolutely, positively nothing apparent to keep themselves and others safe.

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                                          Jolly
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          @Jolly said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                          You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                          Absolutely not the case here. I'm not "safety at any cost." I said it before: for 4th of July weekend, there was a sea of people out and about and after making a few passes in my car, I counted 12 motherfuckers wearing masks out of thousands. That's it. I'm not advocating "safety at any cost," I'm saying it's disgusting how many people in this and other areas are doing absolutely, positively nothing apparent to keep themselves and others safe.

                                          Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. Many people around here equate wearing a mask with being in a police state. I'm positively a flaming liberal on the issue.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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