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Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science

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  • Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor PhibesD Online
    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #67

    As Tom Hanks said, wearing a mask really is the least you can do.

    And saying 'we're going to have to wear one for ever' is the exact same logic that gave us 'it's not as bad as the flu'.

    There's a pandemic. We need to behave differently. This too shall pass.

    I was only joking

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #68

      The issue is that you will inevitably end up accepting the same category of risks, as society eventually returns to not wearing masks, but then, by some unidentifiable magic that has little to do with anything other than the messaging you're exposed to, you will think it's proper. Or maybe you will go to your grave thinking everybody should be wearing masks.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • CopperC Online
        CopperC Online
        Copper
        wrote on last edited by
        #69

        OK, so plain old communicable disease deaths don't matter.

        We could reduce the number of communicable disease deaths by wearing masks, but non-pandemic deaths really don't matter.

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #70

          After everybody else stops wearing them, and in the presence of undeniable communicable disease risk, mask advocates are welcome to keep wearing masks, forever, and they are also welcome to stratify the rest of society into virtue levels depending on the date at which each individual chooses to stop wearing a mask while shopping.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • CopperC Online
            CopperC Online
            Copper
            wrote on last edited by
            #71

            The scope of Pandemics is measured in deaths.

            And for a number of months, as the pandemic was getting up to speed, the flu was worse.

            Then the pandemic caught and passed the flu.

            So what?

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            • Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor PhibesD Online
              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #72

              I've got better things to do than listen to this.

              Have a nice day.

              I was only joking

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              • RainmanR Rainman

                It's weird to meet someone, naturally going to shake hands, and then pull back knowing that all of us alive now, will be the last people that shook hands as part of social discourse.

                "Grandpa, tell me about that thing where you hold a stranger's hand and pump it up and down. What was wrong with people back then?"

                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #73

                @Rainman said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                It's weird to meet someone, naturally going to shake hands, and then pull back knowing that all of us alive now, will be the last people that shook hands as part of social discourse.

                "Grandpa, tell me about that thing where you hold a stranger's hand and pump it up and down. What was wrong with people back then?"

                I still shake hands if they are good with it.

                Then I scream and douse them with hand sanitizer. Then light the hand sanitizer on fire and shout "Bad touch! Bad touch! Bad touch!"

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL Offline
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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #74

                  Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

                    RainmanR Offline
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                    Rainman
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #75

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                    Let me be clear that I douse my hands in sanitizer and light them on fire, not the other person.

                    Good to know!
                    I think I'll start doing that as well.

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #76

                      Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                      We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                      The Brad

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        We all have different goals. Mine is to avoid contracting Covid-19 from some stupid fuck who refuses to wear a mask because it would somehow affect his liberty.

                        MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #77

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                        We all have different goals. Mine is to avoid contracting Covid-19 from some stupid fuck who refuses to wear a mask because it would somehow affect his liberty.

                        That’s pretty much mine too.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                          We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #78

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                          Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                          We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                          Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                            Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                            We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                            Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                            CopperC Online
                            CopperC Online
                            Copper
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #79

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                            Why are people having issues with Copper’s and Horace’s points? We are being told to wear masks so we won’t kill your grandmother. OK. We are told that not wearing a mask is immoral because it puts Grandma at greater risk. OK. So the Flu is deadly to Grandma as well and is just as preventable by the same simple step. Why wouldn’t we continue?Are you that immoral and selfish?

                            We’ve established who/what we are, now we are just haggling over cost.

                            Yeah that's absolutely what their points are, we're all an intellectually honest group here.

                            What is that?

                            It is a legit question. If we should wear masks to prevent some covid, why not prevent everything?

                            What is the limit?

                            I understand that Trump people wear fewer masks and Biden people love masks. cnn and fox made all that clear a long time ago.

                            But the question remains.

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                            • HoraceH Offline
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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #80

                              Seemed like an accurate description of my points.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • RainmanR Offline
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                                Rainman
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #81

                                Bad mood Sunday I guess.
                                Except me. Fat, happy, bubbly, joyous, and other BS.

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                                • Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor PhibesD Online
                                  Doctor Phibes
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #82

                                  If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                  What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                  And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                    If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                    What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                    And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                    LarryL Offline
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                                    Larry
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #83

                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                    If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                    What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                    And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                    But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

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                                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                      If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                      What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                      And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                      HoraceH Offline
                                      HoraceH Offline
                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #84

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                      If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                      What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                      And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                      That may not be an accurate portrayal of what people here have been "consistently" posting.

                                      There should be room in the discussion for those who raise a few questions to the virtuous noises about saving lives at any cost. But I don't really think you want to have a discussion that allows for that room.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                        What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                        And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                        JollyJ Offline
                                        JollyJ Offline
                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #85

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                        If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                        What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                        And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                        You need to live in my neck of the woods. The folks here are positively police state versus what I see and hear from the majority of people around here...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • LarryL Larry

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                          But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #86

                                          @Larry said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in Tucker: Masks and social distancing have no basis in science:

                                          If you want to wear a mask at all times, feel free to do so.

                                          What this argument about is certain people here and elsewhere have consistently downplayed the risks of this pandemic, and consistently argued that we should do nothing out of the ordinary, against pretty much all expert advice, and all evidence to the contrary. As the death toll has increased, the only thing that's changed has been the excuses used to justify doing nothing.

                                          And I for one am fucking sick of it. I have zero interest in trying to nail jello to a wall.

                                          But has the death toll increased? From what I've heard, case numbers are increasing, but deaths are decreasing.

                                          The death rate may have reduced, however I fear that won't last. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong, but I sure don't want to bet on it.

                                          I was only joking

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