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A Letter on Justice and Open Debate

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by Horace
    #52

    Yglesias had McWhorter on his podcast today. Good discussion. Oh, the cognitive dissonance that must be managed by high status progressives when they listen to a guy like McWhorter.

    Just kidding, I know they'd never listen to a guy like McWhorter.

    Education is extremely important.

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      jon-nyc
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      #53

      Seek out McWhorter’s last visit to Glen Loury’s podcast, maybe a week ago. (He’s on regularly)

      How did Yglesias react to him?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • HoraceH Offline
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        #54

        They never disagreed much. Yglesias is attempting to publicly embrace being not-totally-woke. He commented a couple times in the interview that the stuff they were discussing would seem heretical to many of his friends. I think like a lot of people on the left who are capable of doing some thinking, he thinks the direction is good and justifies a ton of disingenuousness in messaging to that end. But he's smart enough to know how absurd some of it is getting and has chosen not to consider all the opposition evil.

        McWhorter enjoys a privilege of being taken seriously thinking what he thinks and saying what he says. Identical thoughts and words from a person with the wrong skin color would not make it onto Yglesias' show. (Of course.)

        Education is extremely important.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
          wrote on last edited by
          #55

          What’s the name of the podcast?

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #56

            It's a Vox podcast called The Weeds.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #57

              Thanks

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ Online
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #58

                Listened to the first 50m or so this morning on my walk.

                My first thought was Yglesias really has a voice for blogging....

                Also McWhorter is good at changing his tone and style for his audience. He comes off differently with Loury.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #59

                  And now Yglesias is out.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                    #60

                    Not too surprising. I wonder to what extent the left will separate itself from the far left in the coming months and year.

                    Please love yourself.

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                      Don't know if it can.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #62

                        What do you think the odds are that he’s going to work in the Biden administration?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #63

                          I suspect he ran face-first into Ezra's idealogue side.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            Not too surprising. I wonder to what extent the left will separate itself from the far left in the coming months and year.

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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in A Letter on Justice and Open Debate:

                            Not too surprising. I wonder to what extent the left will separate itself from the far left in the coming months and year.

                            We might find this is what Biden really meant when he talked about a divided country.

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