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  • L Larry
    7 Jul 2020, 01:44

    Link to video

    Best remake:

    Link to video

    Winner: original.

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    George K
    wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 01:54 last edited by
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    @Larry said in Song Remakes:

    Winner: original.

    And how.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Larry
      wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 01:55 last edited by
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      How?

      ....HOW??????

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      • L Larry
        7 Jul 2020, 01:55

        How?

        ....HOW??????

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        George K
        wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 01:58 last edited by
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        @Larry said in Song Remakes:

        How?

        ....HOW??????

        F'ing Injun...

        But the original has a "rawness" that the remake lacks. The remake sounds sanitized and just a bit "cleaner." That's not better of course. It just sounds processed. No, dare I say, "soul."

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Larry
          wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:06 last edited by
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          The remake uses the sounds of motorcycles to build tension. And that sound doesn't come in subtle, it stomps on you. In the original the tension builds purely from the bass line, which the player purposely introduces it as if it came in from out of nowhere. You "feel" the driving of the car trying to get where youre going purely from the music, not from engines.

          The main flaw in the original in my mind is male background vocals in the chorus. They could have been better. Other than that, a very creative piece of work.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:07 last edited by
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            Just listen to the drum break before the bridge. The original tasteful, musical, and even reminiscent of a Gene Krupa. The remake was just trying to show off. Plus no horn section, and no low harmonies on that middle section....

            I was going to use the word raw, too. Glad to see you picked up on the same thing.

            The Brad

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:09 last edited by
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              I know nothing about drumming, but is the way the drummer in the first video holding the drumsticks the normal way. Look at the 25 seconds mark.

              It looks weird, and I am not sure why. Almost like he is holding a pencil with his left hand. LOL

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                Rainman
                wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:10 last edited by
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                Hey Larry, are you still in the business?

                Do you happen to know how royalties are determined for a cover song? I assume it's whatever it's worth to the cover band, but wonder if there is a percentage involved for how many copies are sold.
                But there are no copies, it's all internet. hmmm. I guess that's why I'm asking the question.

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                • T taiwan_girl
                  7 Jul 2020, 02:09

                  I know nothing about drumming, but is the way the drummer in the first video holding the drumsticks the normal way. Look at the 25 seconds mark.

                  It looks weird, and I am not sure why. Almost like he is holding a pencil with his left hand. LOL

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:12 last edited by
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                  @taiwan_girl that is a normal stick position for snare....

                  The Brad

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                  • L LuFins Dad
                    7 Jul 2020, 02:12

                    @taiwan_girl that is a normal stick position for snare....

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:12 last edited by
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                    @LuFins-Dad Thanks!!!!

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                    • R Rainman
                      7 Jul 2020, 02:10

                      Hey Larry, are you still in the business?

                      Do you happen to know how royalties are determined for a cover song? I assume it's whatever it's worth to the cover band, but wonder if there is a percentage involved for how many copies are sold.
                      But there are no copies, it's all internet. hmmm. I guess that's why I'm asking the question.

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:24 last edited by Larry 7 Jul 2020, 02:55
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                      @Rainman said in Song Remakes:

                      Hey Larry, are you still in the business?

                      Do you happen to know how royalties are determined for a cover song? I assume it's whatever it's worth to the cover band, but wonder if there is a percentage involved for how many copies are sold.
                      But there are no copies, it's all internet. hmmm. I guess that's why I'm asking the question.

                      I am a little. Mostly I've retired from it. As for the royalties, I never got too involved with that.. but there are several types of royalties involved. Each one would have to be hammered out by 5 or 6 sets of attorneys representing the various interests involved, and that's going to be different in most every situation.

                      Now - the joke we used to tell the various attornies... why do lawyers wear neckties... so their foreskin won't creep up and choke them to death....

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        7 Jul 2020, 02:07

                        Just listen to the drum break before the bridge. The original tasteful, musical, and even reminiscent of a Gene Krupa. The remake was just trying to show off. Plus no horn section, and no low harmonies on that middle section....

                        I was going to use the word raw, too. Glad to see you picked up on the same thing.

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                        Larry
                        wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:27 last edited by
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Song Remakes:

                        Just listen to the drum break before the bridge. The original tasteful, musical, and even reminiscent of a Gene Krupa. The remake was just trying to show off. Plus no horn section, and no low harmonies on that middle section....

                        I was going to use the word raw, too. Glad to see you picked up on the same thing.

                        I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

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                        • G George K
                          7 Jul 2020, 01:58

                          @Larry said in Song Remakes:

                          How?

                          ....HOW??????

                          F'ing Injun...

                          But the original has a "rawness" that the remake lacks. The remake sounds sanitized and just a bit "cleaner." That's not better of course. It just sounds processed. No, dare I say, "soul."

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                          Catseye3
                          wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 02:31 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in Song Remakes:

                          But the original has a "rawness" that the remake lacks. The remake sounds sanitized and just a bit "cleaner." That's not better of course. It just sounds processed. No, dare I say, "soul."

                          Okay, that sounds like you're saying what I said. Which rendition are you talking about here?

                          Sorry for my confusion.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            Doctor Phibes
                            wrote on 7 Jul 2020, 03:23 last edited by
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                            Is this thread some grotesque attempt at gaslighting?

                            I was only joking

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                            • L Larry
                              7 Jul 2020, 02:27

                              @LuFins-Dad said in Song Remakes:

                              Just listen to the drum break before the bridge. The original tasteful, musical, and even reminiscent of a Gene Krupa. The remake was just trying to show off. Plus no horn section, and no low harmonies on that middle section....

                              I was going to use the word raw, too. Glad to see you picked up on the same thing.

                              I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

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                              Renauda
                              wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 00:38 last edited by
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                              @Larry said in Song Remakes:

                              I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

                              If it is Whitesnake, and i doubt that it is, it wouldn't be the first time David Coverdale didn't understand the music he was trying to vocalise.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • R Renauda
                                8 Jul 2020, 00:38

                                @Larry said in Song Remakes:

                                I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

                                If it is Whitesnake, and i doubt that it is, it wouldn't be the first time David Coverdale didn't understand the music he was trying to vocalise.

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                                George K
                                wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 00:39 last edited by
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                                @Renauda the title says "White Lion" whoever the hell they are were.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 00:44 last edited by
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                                  Just opened this thread. Cats, I really like Radar Love because at the time it came out my love lived 40 miles away. It really related to how we communicated when long distance calling was out of the question. We are still in contact to this day.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 01:04 last edited by Doctor Phibes 7 Aug 2020, 01:05
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                                    I was FB friends with somebody named Coverdale - she's related to the great man, but only, as she is very quick to point out, by marriage. I think she unfriended me when she remembered who I was from school 😥

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • R Renauda
                                      8 Jul 2020, 00:38

                                      @Larry said in Song Remakes:

                                      I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

                                      If it is Whitesnake, and i doubt that it is, it wouldn't be the first time David Coverdale didn't understand the music he was trying to vocalise.

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 01:31 last edited by
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                                      @Renauda said in Song Remakes:

                                      @Larry said in Song Remakes:

                                      I got the feeling that the group Whitesnake didn't even understand the song's storyline, or for that matter, the music.

                                      If it is Whitesnake, and i doubt that it is, it wouldn't be the first time David Coverdale didn't understand the music he was trying to vocalise.

                                      My bad.. it's White Lion....

                                      Sounds like the name of a grocery store...

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                                        I believe that is Food Lion.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Larry
                                          wrote on 8 Jul 2020, 01:38 last edited by
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                                          Where all the whites shop....

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