More on Mayfield
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 19:17 last edited by
An entertaining and good analysis (at least to little ol' me) from Mike Freeman: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/mike-freeman/2023/03/16/tom-brady-baker-mayfield-bucs-make-anti-aaron-rodgers-move/11477686002/
"Quarterback Baker Mayfield is heading to the Buccaneers. He will be competing to replace Tom Brady. This is like going from Denzel Washington to me. This is the anti-Aaron Rodgers move.
"According to various reports, Mayfield signed a one-year deal worth up to $8.5 million. His salary, according to ESPN, starts at $4 million. That's car wash money for an NFL team. The other option I guess was Steve DeBerg.
"Mayfield will battle for the job with Kyle Trask. Mayfield vs. Trask: you feel that excitement? I sure do. I'm certain elite Buccaneers receivers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin do not."
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"His signing with the Bucs signals several things. First, it officially marks the end of the Brady era. We already knew it was over when Brady retired this offseason, but this really marks it in a gobsmacking way. There have likely been larger quarterback falls-off-a-cliff going from Brady to MayTrask, but not many.
"Second, Brady turned the Buccaneers into a highly watchable, brilliant franchise. Built differently from the Tony Dungy Bucs teams that relied on defense to win, and just as successful, and beautiful to watch. Brady turned every game into an event, must-watch football.
"If you're settling for Mayfield and Trask, you're likely conceding to a four-win season. To go from what Brady did to this is going to be shocking."
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 20:40 last edited by
Actually, I think Mayfield is a decent QB. Cleveland dropped the ball big time. The Watson fiasco will bury them for another decade.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 20:55 last edited by
Agreed. he had aa weak supporting cast and some injuries, but I think he's a winner. Not a top 5 maybe, but a winner. Cleveland is notoriously bad at attracting talent and keeping it. Their coaching also sucks.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 22:20 last edited by
In the NFL QB rankings, I'd put him at 15, give or take a couple of spots.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 22:37 last edited by
@Jolly said in More on Mayfield:
In the NFL QB rankings, I'd put him at 15, give or take a couple of spots.
What does 15 mean?
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 22:44 last edited by
32 teams.
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 23:15 last edited by Catseye3
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wrote on 16 Mar 2023, 23:37 last edited by
Don’t be embarrassed. I find it admirable that you’re interested.
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 00:40 last edited by
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
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Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 01:55 last edited by@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...
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@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 02:00 last edited by@Jolly said in More on Mayfield:
@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...
Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…
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wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 02:31 last edited by
Found this on Profootballtalk:
"Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.
"Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."
If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.
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Found this on Profootballtalk:
"Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.
"Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."
If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 02:44 last edited by@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Found this on Profootballtalk:
"Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.
"Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."
If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.
Guys do that. Winston did it. And lost. But...you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.
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@Jolly said in More on Mayfield:
@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...
Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 02:45 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in More on Mayfield:
@Jolly said in More on Mayfield:
@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Thanks.
I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.
I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.
Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...
Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…
He's doing better than Can't -Guard-Mike.
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@Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:
Found this on Profootballtalk:
"Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.
"Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."
If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.
Guys do that. Winston did it. And lost. But...you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.
wrote on 17 Mar 2023, 15:23 last edited by Catseye3@Jolly said in More on Mayfield:
you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.
Yes, I can see that. The job brings an insane amount of responsibility. Duty, accountability, representation . . . you must be an effective leader, must be seen as reliable. Last but so much not least, you must be fit and strong enough to do the job with skill and power that is unique in the team. You must be able to get sacked three times in the same game by a freightload of the enemy, and climb to your feet and throw it again and keep throwing it until it's done.
You have to walk totally tall.
How can you begin to do all that and be all that if you don't believe in yourself?
Here's what Tristan Wirfs, one of Brady's protectors (offensive tackle) said about Brady. When asked how he would describe Brady to his kids in the future, he said, “Just gonna tell ‘em he was an old dog. I’ve loved every second of it. He’s a very special person, really special player…Yeah, he surprises me. His old ass threw what, like a 60-yard bomb? He’s awesome. I love him to death.”
