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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    An entertaining and good analysis (at least to little ol' me) from Mike Freeman: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/mike-freeman/2023/03/16/tom-brady-baker-mayfield-bucs-make-anti-aaron-rodgers-move/11477686002/

    "Quarterback Baker Mayfield is heading to the Buccaneers. He will be competing to replace Tom Brady. This is like going from Denzel Washington to me. This is the anti-Aaron Rodgers move.

    "According to various reports, Mayfield signed a one-year deal worth up to $8.5 million. His salary, according to ESPN, starts at $4 million. That's car wash money for an NFL team. The other option I guess was Steve DeBerg.

    "Mayfield will battle for the job with Kyle Trask. Mayfield vs. Trask: you feel that excitement? I sure do. I'm certain elite Buccaneers receivers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin do not."

    And:

    "His signing with the Bucs signals several things. First, it officially marks the end of the Brady era. We already knew it was over when Brady retired this offseason, but this really marks it in a gobsmacking way. There have likely been larger quarterback falls-off-a-cliff going from Brady to MayTrask, but not many.

    "Second, Brady turned the Buccaneers into a highly watchable, brilliant franchise. Built differently from the Tony Dungy Bucs teams that relied on defense to win, and just as successful, and beautiful to watch. Brady turned every game into an event, must-watch football.

    "If you're settling for Mayfield and Trask, you're likely conceding to a four-win season. To go from what Brady did to this is going to be shocking."

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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    • LuFins DadL Offline
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      LuFins Dad
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      Actually, I think Mayfield is a decent QB. Cleveland dropped the ball big time. The Watson fiasco will bury them for another decade.

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        #3

        Agreed. he had aa weak supporting cast and some injuries, but I think he's a winner. Not a top 5 maybe, but a winner. Cleveland is notoriously bad at attracting talent and keeping it. Their coaching also sucks.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #4

          In the NFL QB rankings, I'd put him at 15, give or take a couple of spots.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            In the NFL QB rankings, I'd put him at 15, give or take a couple of spots.

            Catseye3C Offline
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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

            In the NFL QB rankings, I'd put him at 15, give or take a couple of spots.

            What does 15 mean?

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Jolly
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              #6

              32 teams.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                32 teams.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by Catseye3
                #7

                @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

                32 teams.

                Oh. Right.

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                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #8

                  Don’t be embarrassed. I find it admirable that you’re interested.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • Catseye3C Offline
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                    Catseye3
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                    #9

                    Thanks.

                    I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                    I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • Catseye3C Catseye3

                      Thanks.

                      I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                      I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

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                      Jolly
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                      #10

                      @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                      Thanks.

                      I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                      I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                      Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                        Thanks.

                        I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                        I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                        Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...

                        LuFins DadL Offline
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                        @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

                        @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                        Thanks.

                        I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                        I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                        Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...

                        Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…

                        The Brad

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                        • Catseye3C Offline
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                          Catseye3
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                          #12

                          Found this on Profootballtalk:

                          "Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.

                          "Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."

                          If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.

                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                          • Catseye3C Catseye3

                            Found this on Profootballtalk:

                            "Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.

                            "Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."

                            If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.

                            JollyJ Offline
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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                            Found this on Profootballtalk:

                            "Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.

                            "Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."

                            If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.

                            Guys do that. Winston did it. And lost. But...you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

                              @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                              Thanks.

                              I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                              I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                              Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...

                              Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @LuFins-Dad said in More on Mayfield:

                              @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

                              @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                              Thanks.

                              I'm thinking about Blaine Gabbert, Brady's runner-up QB. It's one thing to back up a $15mil/year player; but then to go from there to backing up a $4mil/year -- when you're already on the payroll! must be a bitter pill.

                              I don't think he was ever seriously considered to replace Brady. But still.

                              Put yourself in Jamis Winston's shoes...

                              Jamis doesn’t wear shoes, just casts and hospital slippers…

                              He's doing better than Can't -Guard-Mike.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @Catseye3 said in More on Mayfield:

                                Found this on Profootballtalk:

                                "Last year, Mayfield made a major bet on himself, trading in a guaranteed $19.9 million base salary with the Browns for a much lower guaranteed payment. He’s making a bet for a second straight year, wagering on spending the 2023 season proving himself to be a starter in the NFL.

                                "Either way, it’s a great deal for the Buccaneers. They get Mayfield for relative peanuts, as they transition away from Tom Brady. And if Mayfield plays well, he’ll get a lot more than $4 million in 2024."

                                If I'm understanding this, I got to admire that betting-on-himself approach.

                                Guys do that. Winston did it. And lost. But...you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.

                                Catseye3C Offline
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                                @Jolly said in More on Mayfield:

                                you have to think you're the best or you can't play QB in the NFL.

                                Yes, I can see that. The job brings an insane amount of responsibility. Duty, accountability, representation . . . you must be an effective leader, must be seen as reliable. Last but so much not least, you must be fit and strong enough to do the job with skill and power that is unique in the team. You must be able to get sacked three times in the same game by a freightload of the enemy, and climb to your feet and throw it again and keep throwing it until it's done.

                                You have to walk totally tall.

                                How can you begin to do all that and be all that if you don't believe in yourself?

                                Here's what Tristan Wirfs, one of Brady's protectors (offensive tackle) said about Brady. When asked how he would describe Brady to his kids in the future, he said, “Just gonna tell ‘em he was an old dog. I’ve loved every second of it. He’s a very special person, really special player…Yeah, he surprises me. His old ass threw what, like a 60-yard bomb? He’s awesome. I love him to death.”

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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