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  • MikM Offline
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    When you are shoving it in the face of folks who don’t care to view it. The people who come out to see this will not be the regulars, and you know there will be bad behavior.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      LuFins Dad
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      @Catseye3 said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

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      If I took Finley into a burlesque show, they would be shut down in a NY minute. Why is there special consideration because they are queer?

      The Brad

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      • MikM Offline
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        You answered your own question.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Mik

          You answered your own question.

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          George K
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          @Mik said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

          You answered your own question.

          You beat me, LOL.

          I was going to say, "To ask the question is to answer it."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Catseye3 said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

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            If I took Finley into a burlesque show, they would be shut down in a NY minute. Why is there special consideration because they are queer?

            AxtremusA Offline
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

            If I took Finley into a burlesque show, they would be shut down in a NY minute. Why is there special consideration because they are queer?

            Because “drag” and “burlesque” are different?

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

              If I took Finley into a burlesque show, they would be shut down in a NY minute. Why is there special consideration because they are queer?

              Because “drag” and “burlesque” are different?

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              @Axtremus said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

              @LuFins-Dad said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

              If I took Finley into a burlesque show, they would be shut down in a NY minute. Why is there special consideration because they are queer?

              Because “drag” and “burlesque” are different?

              You’re right. Burlesque is often much less sexualized content.

              The Brad

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                All in favor of it.

                Kids do not need to be exposed to a drag queen anything. If the hotel wants to have such an event, 18 and over.

                I hope this sends a chilling effect throughout the state.

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                @Jolly said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                Kids do not need to be exposed to a drag queen anything. If the hotel wants to have such an event, 18 and over.

                Regardless of your personal feeling, the state has no legal justification to penalize the hotel if there is no law prohibiting the presence of minors at drag shows.

                Thou shalt respect the rule of law, not give in to demagoguery.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Jolly said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  Kids do not need to be exposed to a drag queen anything. If the hotel wants to have such an event, 18 and over.

                  Regardless of your personal feeling, the state has no legal justification to penalize the hotel if there is no law prohibiting the presence of minors at drag shows.

                  Thou shalt respect the rule of law, not give in to demagoguery.

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                  @Axtremus said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  @Jolly said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                  Kids do not need to be exposed to a drag queen anything. If the hotel wants to have such an event, 18 and over.

                  Regardless of your personal feeling, the state has no legal justification to penalize the hotel if there is no law prohibiting the presence of minors at drag shows.

                  Thou shalt respect the rule of law, not give in to demagoguery.

                  It also cited a criminal law against disorderly conduct, and one against the “unlawful exposure of sexual organs” — a first-degree misdemeanor, a crime if done in a “vulgar or indecent manner.” First-degree misdemeanors, in Florida, are generally punishable by up to a year in jail, while committing a second-degree misdemeanor can lead to a term of up to 60 days behind bars.

                  The Brad

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Mik said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    family friendly, but also inclusive

                    When does the line between "inclusive" and "offensive" get crossed?

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                    @George-K said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    @Mik said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                    family friendly, but also inclusive

                    When does the line between "inclusive" and "offensive" get crossed?

                    If it wasn't offensive, it wouldn't need to be 'included'. They are the same line, just described by people on opposite sides of it.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

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                        @LuFins-Dad First Amendment, baby!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @LuFins-Dad First Amendment, baby!

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                          @George-K said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                          @LuFins-Dad First Amendment, baby!

                          But it’s not burlesque!

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @George-K said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                            @LuFins-Dad First Amendment, baby!

                            But it’s not burlesque!

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                            @LuFins-Dad there's a twitter account called "The First Amendment." That account is defending drag shows.

                            Fine.

                            I'm awaiting it to defend drag shows in front of 6 year olds.

                            By the way, on a sort of related topic, I still haven't heard if Ax objects to his kids seeking out porn.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              As one wag said, "We ought to hire illegal immigrants to hunt groomers. We could call it Alien vs. Predator.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                The James L. Knight center, where the event was held, is owned by the City of Miami and managed by a third party, not the Hyatt. I suspect this won't make it past an appeal.

                                DeSantis won’t care by then. A common DeSantis theme is to make bold but impractical or illegal moves like this. He wins the news cycle, and no one really pays attention when it gets walked back a few weeks or months later.

                                Trump must be livid.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  Apparently the Broward County Center for the Performing Arts hosted the same show later in the week. It’s owned and operated by the municipality, no unrelated private party to bully for headlines, I guess.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    The James L. Knight center, where the event was held, is owned by the City of Miami and managed by a third party, not the Hyatt. I suspect this won't make it past an appeal.

                                    DeSantis won’t care by then. A common DeSantis theme is to make bold but impractical or illegal moves like this. He wins the news cycle, and no one really pays attention when it gets walked back a few weeks or months later.

                                    Trump must be livid.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                                    The James L. Knight center, where the event was held, is owned by the City of Miami and managed by a third party, not the Hyatt. I suspect this won't make it past an appeal.

                                    DeSantis won’t care by then. A common DeSantis theme is to make bold but impractical or illegal moves like this. He wins the news cycle, and no one really pays attention when it gets walked back a few weeks or months later.

                                    Trump must be livid.

                                    The problem is whose liquor license was used to serve at the event? I don’t know enough about Florida’s liquor license rules, for instance, but I do know that 20 years ago, that show wouldn’t have been allowed to happen in PA with alcohol served unless it was at a private club and would have been strictly 21+…

                                    The Brad

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                                      Don't mess with Jon's narrative.

                                      I don't think he'd take his son to one of these shows.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        And let’s be clear, the issue isn’t that they had the show. The issue is that it was originally designated an all ages show, then begrudgingly moved into a rated R status and the show happened with minors in attendance.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • JollyJ Jolly

                                          Don't mess with Jon's narrative.

                                          I don't think he'd take his son to one of these shows.

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                                          @Jolly said in Florida to revoke liquor license of Hyatt that hosted an all ages drag show…:

                                          Don't mess with Jon's narrative.

                                          And what might my narrative be?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

                                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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