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    Mik
    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 13:44 last edited by
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    Horace is correct, of course, but I think we are talking about simple poor journalism here. I suspect she'd laugh if she read it.

    To paraphrase Popeye, you yam what you yam.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      Mik
      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:01 last edited by
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      Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

      But it's not the racism you think.

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • M Mik
        13 Mar 2023, 14:01

        Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

        But it's not the racism you think.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:08 last edited by Catseye3
        #33

        @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

        Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
        But it's not the racism you think.

        Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

        MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          13 Mar 2023, 14:08

          @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

          Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
          But it's not the racism you think.

          Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

          MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

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          Mik
          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:44 last edited by
          #34

          @Catseye3 yeah, I did. It sickened me. As did many of the comments.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • L LuFins Dad
            13 Mar 2023, 12:51

            @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

            @jon-nyc

            @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

            "Who identifies...."

            That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

            I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

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            Copper
            wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:20 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

            I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

            Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

            So the quota is 12%.

            Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

            But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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            • C Copper
              13 Mar 2023, 15:20

              @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

              I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

              Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

              So the quota is 12%.

              Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

              But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:23 last edited by
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              @Copper

              None of that means anything to people who can conceive of this kind of comment.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                Horace
                wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:27 last edited by Horace
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                Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • H Horace
                  13 Mar 2023, 15:27

                  Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:30 last edited by
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                  @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                  The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on . . .

                  And they are so infernally successful.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    George K
                    wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 16:55 last edited by
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                    Angela Bassett fiercely defended for not applauding Jamie Lee Curtis

                    Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.

                    The 64-year-old actress, who stunned in a purple Moschino gown at the prestigious ceremony, had been nominated for the gong for her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever alongside The Banshees of Inisherin’s Kerry Condon, Everything Everywhere All At One’s Stephanie Hsu, The Whale’s Hong Chau, and Curtis.

                    Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.

                    A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.

                    Fans were quick to defend her reaction though, with many also applauding her for keeping it real by displaying her honest emotion.

                    I suppose the only other way she could have gotten more attention is if she had run up onto the stage and slapped Jamie Lee Curtis.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      13 Mar 2023, 12:51

                      @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                      @jon-nyc

                      @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                      "Who identifies...."

                      That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                      I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

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                      89th
                      wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 16:56 last edited by
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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                      I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                      Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 17:05 last edited by
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                        This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • 8 89th
                          13 Mar 2023, 16:56

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                          Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:15 last edited by
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                          @89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                          Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

                          He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

                          The Brad

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            13 Mar 2023, 19:15

                            @89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                            I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                            Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

                            He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:23 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
                            ? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

                            That is the only reason he was granted the privilege of all those low scores.

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                            • G George K
                              13 Mar 2023, 16:55

                              Angela Bassett fiercely defended for not applauding Jamie Lee Curtis

                              Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.

                              The 64-year-old actress, who stunned in a purple Moschino gown at the prestigious ceremony, had been nominated for the gong for her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever alongside The Banshees of Inisherin’s Kerry Condon, Everything Everywhere All At One’s Stephanie Hsu, The Whale’s Hong Chau, and Curtis.

                              Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.

                              A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.

                              Fans were quick to defend her reaction though, with many also applauding her for keeping it real by displaying her honest emotion.

                              I suppose the only other way she could have gotten more attention is if she had run up onto the stage and slapped Jamie Lee Curtis.

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:34 last edited by Catseye3
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                              @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                              Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
                              Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
                              A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.

                              She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person? Without having the whole thing turn into a BFD racial thing?

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • C Catseye3
                                13 Mar 2023, 19:34

                                @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
                                Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
                                A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.

                                She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person? Without having the whole thing turn into a BFD racial thing?

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 20:32 last edited by
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                                @Catseye3 said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person?

                                Yeap, no problem giving her the benefit of the doubt there.

                                I watched Wakanda Forever. As much as I enjoyed the movie, I can’t say I found her performance in it exceptional. She performed as professionally as can be reasonably expected from a seasoned actress in a big budget production, just did not stand out. There’s also not that much in the script for her role in Wakanda Forever for her to work with.

                                In comparison, JLC’s performance was surprisingly convincing in EEAAO, so much so that I initially thought the different personae played by JLC were played by different actresses.

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                                • H Horace
                                  13 Mar 2023, 17:05

                                  This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:20 last edited by
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                                  @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                  This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.

                                  Same reason JW got his for True Grit.

                                  https://www.imdb.com/list/ls062019015/

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

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                                  • J Jolly
                                    14 Mar 2023, 01:20

                                    @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.

                                    Same reason JW got his for True Grit.

                                    https://www.imdb.com/list/ls062019015/

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:24 last edited by
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                                    @Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    Same reason JW got his for True Grit.

                                    I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."

                                    Though I haven't seen "Everything..."

                                    I might be wrong, of course.

                                    Again.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • G George K
                                      14 Mar 2023, 01:24

                                      @Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                      Same reason JW got his for True Grit.

                                      I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."

                                      Though I haven't seen "Everything..."

                                      I might be wrong, of course.

                                      Again.

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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:46 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                      @Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                      Same reason JW got his for True Grit.

                                      I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."

                                      Though I haven't seen "Everything..."

                                      I might be wrong, of course.

                                      Again.

                                      Nah, TG is better. But this is one of those lifetime things. Horace is right, it's common with the Academy. Considering what kind of crap they usually give awards, it doesn't bother me.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:51 last edited by
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                                        If there was justice in the world, Maverick would have won best pic. After COVID, it was the one movie that put butts in the seats.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:59 last edited by
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                                          Cruise...

                                          https://www.thefp.com/p/tom-cruise-deserves-an-oscar-for

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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