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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh
Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.
Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 13:41 last edited by@Axtremus said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh
Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.
Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.
Nobody denies that she has justification for calling herself Asian. But the concept of “identifying as” implies a simple personal choice, regardless of justification. Which brings up the question of whether we all have that choice for any other choice of race. Where the rubber meets the road for such choices is of course identifying as black. The only reason we haven’t had the social discussion yet is because people are terrified of trying, as everybody knows doing so is punishable by the social death penalty.
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wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 13:44 last edited by
Horace is correct, of course, but I think we are talking about simple poor journalism here. I suspect she'd laugh if she read it.
To paraphrase Popeye, you yam what you yam.
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wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:01 last edited by
Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
But it's not the racism you think.
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Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
But it's not the racism you think.
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 14:08 last edited by Catseye3@Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
But it's not the racism you think.Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."
MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.
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@Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
But it's not the racism you think.Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."
MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.
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@Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
@George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
"Who identifies...."
That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:20 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?
So the quota is 12%.
Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.
But merit really isn't welcome lately.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?
So the quota is 12%.
Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.
But merit really isn't welcome lately.
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wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:27 last edited by Horace
Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.
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Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 15:30 last edited by@Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on . . .
And they are so infernally successful.
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wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 16:55 last edited by
Angela Bassett fiercely defended for not applauding Jamie Lee Curtis
Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
The 64-year-old actress, who stunned in a purple Moschino gown at the prestigious ceremony, had been nominated for the gong for her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever alongside The Banshees of Inisherin’s Kerry Condon, Everything Everywhere All At One’s Stephanie Hsu, The Whale’s Hong Chau, and Curtis.
Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.
Fans were quick to defend her reaction though, with many also applauding her for keeping it real by displaying her honest emotion.
I suppose the only other way she could have gotten more attention is if she had run up onto the stage and slapped Jamie Lee Curtis.
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@Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
@George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
"Who identifies...."
That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 16:56 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.
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wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 17:05 last edited by
This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:15 last edited by@89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.
He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."
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@89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?
Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.
He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:23 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."That is the only reason he was granted the privilege of all those low scores.
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Angela Bassett fiercely defended for not applauding Jamie Lee Curtis
Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
The 64-year-old actress, who stunned in a purple Moschino gown at the prestigious ceremony, had been nominated for the gong for her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever alongside The Banshees of Inisherin’s Kerry Condon, Everything Everywhere All At One’s Stephanie Hsu, The Whale’s Hong Chau, and Curtis.
Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.
Fans were quick to defend her reaction though, with many also applauding her for keeping it real by displaying her honest emotion.
I suppose the only other way she could have gotten more attention is if she had run up onto the stage and slapped Jamie Lee Curtis.
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 19:34 last edited by Catseye3@George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person? Without having the whole thing turn into a BFD racial thing?
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@George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.
Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.
A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person? Without having the whole thing turn into a BFD racial thing?
wrote on 13 Mar 2023, 20:32 last edited by@Catseye3 said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
She couldn't just have been disappointed at having lost something she wanted and had worked hard for? Y'know, just like a regular normal person?
Yeap, no problem giving her the benefit of the doubt there.
I watched Wakanda Forever. As much as I enjoyed the movie, I can’t say I found her performance in it exceptional. She performed as professionally as can be reasonably expected from a seasoned actress in a big budget production, just did not stand out. There’s also not that much in the script for her role in Wakanda Forever for her to work with.
In comparison, JLC’s performance was surprisingly convincing in EEAAO, so much so that I initially thought the different personae played by JLC were played by different actresses.
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This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.
wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:20 last edited by@Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.
Same reason JW got his for True Grit.
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@Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.
Same reason JW got his for True Grit.
wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:24 last edited by@Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Same reason JW got his for True Grit.
I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."
Though I haven't seen "Everything..."
I might be wrong, of course.
Again.
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@Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Same reason JW got his for True Grit.
I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."
Though I haven't seen "Everything..."
I might be wrong, of course.
Again.
wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:46 last edited by@George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
@Jolly said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
Same reason JW got his for True Grit.
I would guess that "True Grit" is probably a better movie than "Everything..."
Though I haven't seen "Everything..."
I might be wrong, of course.
Again.
Nah, TG is better. But this is one of those lifetime things. Horace is right, it's common with the Academy. Considering what kind of crap they usually give awards, it doesn't bother me.
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wrote on 14 Mar 2023, 01:51 last edited by
If there was justice in the world, Maverick would have won best pic. After COVID, it was the one movie that put butts in the seats.