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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    #24

    "Who identifies...."

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Damn. John Williams received his 53rd Oscar nomination this year.

      53!

      HoraceH Offline
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      @jon-nyc

      @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

      "Who identifies...."

      That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @jon-nyc

        @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

        "Who identifies...."

        That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

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        @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

        identifying as different skin colors is wrong,

        image.jpeg

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @jon-nyc

          @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

          "Who identifies...."

          That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

          LuFins DadL Offline
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          #27

          @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

          @jon-nyc

          @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

          "Who identifies...."

          That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

          The Brad

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

            Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

            Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

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            • George KG George K

              I never saw the 1st "Avatar" movie. Is it any good?

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              @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

              I never saw the 1st "Avatar" movie. Is it any good?

              Only in 3D. Then it’s gorgeous and immersing. I assume 2 is the same way. The story was tired.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

                Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

                Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

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                @Axtremus said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Yeoh

                Yeoh was born on 6 August 1962 in Ipoh, Perak,[13] to a Malaysian Chinese family of Hokkien and Cantonese ancestry.[14][15] Her parents are Janet Yeoh and Yeoh Kian-teik (died on 5 November 2014), a lawyer and Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) politician.[16][17] She grew up speaking Malay and English, and could not read or write Chinese.[18] She expressed that lack as her "greatest regret" in 2022.[19] Despite that, she learned to speak Cantonese fluently in the 1980s and some Mandarin in the 2000s.

                Her ancestry and upbringing are Asian. Despite not speaking Chinese in her youth, Malay is also an Asian language, so she also speaks Asian in her youth as well.

                Nobody denies that she has justification for calling herself Asian. But the concept of “identifying as” implies a simple personal choice, regardless of justification. Which brings up the question of whether we all have that choice for any other choice of race. Where the rubber meets the road for such choices is of course identifying as black. The only reason we haven’t had the social discussion yet is because people are terrified of trying, as everybody knows doing so is punishable by the social death penalty.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Horace is correct, of course, but I think we are talking about simple poor journalism here. I suspect she'd laugh if she read it.

                  To paraphrase Popeye, you yam what you yam.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

                    But it's not the racism you think.

                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.

                      But it's not the racism you think.

                      https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/jamie-lee-curtis-s-oscar-win-has-sparked-backlash-and-people-are-not-holding-back/ar-AA18xU1M?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3b8f83c859014a30e46b30f35312725a&ei=11

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                      @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                      Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
                      But it's not the racism you think.

                      Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

                      MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @Mik said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                        Racism is alive and well in Hollywood.
                        But it's not the racism you think.

                        Did you see this in the Comments? "Everyone who voted for Jamie Lee Curtis over Angela Bassett and Stephanie Hsu needs to sleep with one eye open."

                        MSN/Buzzfeed. Rabble Rousers. Really irresponsible.

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                        @Catseye3 yeah, I did. It sickened me. As did many of the comments.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          @jon-nyc

                          @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          "Who identifies...."

                          That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                          CopperC Offline
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                          Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

                          So the quota is 12%.

                          Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

                          But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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                          • CopperC Copper

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                            I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                            Aren't blacks about 12% of the population?

                            So the quota is 12%.

                            Now if you want to throw merit into the mix that number could change.

                            But merit really isn't welcome lately.

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                            @Copper

                            None of that means anything to people who can conceive of this kind of comment.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              #37

                              Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                Programmed primates, expressing the culture they were indoctrinated into. The only thing it says about them is that they enjoy their socially encouraged hatreds. The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on, and the personality types that fiercely embrace those hatreds will be the same.

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                                @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                The same sort of socially encouraged hatreds are what institutionalized racism or anti semitism etc are based on . . .

                                And they are so infernally successful.

                                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  Angela Bassett fiercely defended for not applauding Jamie Lee Curtis

                                  Angela Bassett couldn’t hide her disappointment after losing out on the best supporting actress award at this year’s Oscars to Jamie Lee Curtis.

                                  The 64-year-old actress, who stunned in a purple Moschino gown at the prestigious ceremony, had been nominated for the gong for her role in Black Panther: Wakanda Forever alongside The Banshees of Inisherin’s Kerry Condon, Everything Everywhere All At One’s Stephanie Hsu, The Whale’s Hong Chau, and Curtis.

                                  Sadly though, Bassett was not victorious in the category and looked incredibly dissatisfied after the winner was announced.

                                  A camera caught the reactions of all five nominees as Curtis’s name was called out, and while the other actresses applauded despite their loss, Bassett appeared deflated.

                                  Fans were quick to defend her reaction though, with many also applauding her for keeping it real by displaying her honest emotion.

                                  I suppose the only other way she could have gotten more attention is if she had run up onto the stage and slapped Jamie Lee Curtis.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    @Horace said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    @jon-nyc

                                    @George-K said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    "Who identifies...."

                                    That’s unsustainable because identifying as black is, and will always be, third rail. I think the CRT mob actually has some hand waving justification for why identifying as different skin colors is wrong, while identifying as different genders is ok.

                                    I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

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                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                    I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                    Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

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                                      This all but guarantees Bassett an award next time she is nominated. As for Curtis, presumably it was a lifetime achievement award, as the academy is wont to give.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                        I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                        Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

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                                        @89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                        I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                        Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

                                        He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          @89th said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:

                                          I would still like to know what the dividing line is for black? 25%? Does it make a difference what the other 75% is? 75% Caucasian, no deal. 50% Caucasian, 25% black, 25% Hispanic and you're in?

                                          Tiger Woods is 50% asian (Thai) and like 40% black, and 10% white. He's an asian golfer, but will always be known as a black golfer.

                                          He is 25 Thai, 25% Chinese, 25% White, 12.5% Black, and 12.5% Native American... So where does that land on the privilege scale? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone watching the Oscars?:
                                          ? He is twice as White as he is Black, and twice as Asian as he is White. And don't forget that Asian is considered "White-Adjacent..."

                                          That is the only reason he was granted the privilege of all those low scores.

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