Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?

[mark]

@George-K I agree. It's Medical malpractice at the very least. Fraud mixed with an assault charge perhaps? Prescribing drugs so far off label that it really should be illegal?

[George K]

@mark said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Prescribing drugs so far off label that it really should be illegal?

That's the most slippery of slopes.

I would probably consider doing it without parental consent a bigger crime.

[LuFins Dad]

@George-K said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@mark said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Prescribing drugs so far off label that it really should be illegal?

That's the most slippery of slopes.

I would probably consider doing it without parental consent a bigger crime.

The whole thought that it is okay to allow minors to make these medical decisions without the consent or even knowledge of their parents and legal guardians is so fundamentally wrong that it borders on evil. And not just by the medical professionals but educators, school systems, and politicians that allowed and encouraged this.

I am aghast at what has happened to the public school systems.

[George K]

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

so fundamentally wrong that it borders on (is) evil

[LuFins Dad]

There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

[LuFins Dad]

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

One could hope. It would be an interesting flash point where the parent would be martyred by much of the media coverage, but it would force some discussion.

[jon-nyc]

@LuFins-Dad

It’s hard to imagine state interference going beyond (1) preventing medical intervention of minors and (2) preventing schools from changing name/pronouns etc w/o parental consent.

[Jolly]

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

Would tickle me pink.

Abuse is abuse. No different than beating your child on the front lawn.

[jon-nyc]

The actual affidavit. Much more detail than the article. Worth skimming.

https://ago.mo.gov/docs/default-source/press-releases/2-07-2023-reed-affidavit---signed.pdf

[jon-nyc]

Example:

Social media is at least partly responsible for this large increase in children seeking gender transition treatment from the Center. Many children themselves would say that they learned of their gender identities from TikTok. Children would arrive at the Center identifying not only as transgender, but also as having tic disorders (Tourette Syndrome) or multiple personality disorders (dissociative identity disorder). Doctors at the Center would ignore and dismiss as social contagion the claims about the tics and multiple personalities; but then those doctors would uncritically accept the children’s statements about gender identity and place these children on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

[Horace]

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this. It’s legit interesting watching the mainstream leftist media countenance this topic that any ostensibly decent adult human being knows has a good side, and an evil side, when the evil side happens to reside on the left in this case.

My guess is that the way forward for the cognitively dissonant leftist is to not think or talk about it at all.

[Jolly]

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

Over a year ago, I think.

But who listens to crazies?

[Horace]

@Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

Over a year ago, I think.

But who listens to crazies?

The value of shooting and murdering the credibility of the messenger is no more apparent than when those undead zombie messengers are the only ones pointing out to the general public that their mainstream culture is completely off the rails, and legit evil in certain particular ways.

[LuFins Dad]

@Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

Over a year ago, I think.

But who listens to crazies?

Right. It’s not legitimate until you have a self described hardcore lefty lesbian who’s partner is Trans making these claims.

[LuFins Dad]

@jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Example:

Social media is at least partly responsible for this large increase in children seeking gender transition treatment from the Center. Many children themselves would say that they learned of their gender identities from TikTok. Children would arrive at the Center identifying not only as transgender, but also as having tic disorders (Tourette Syndrome) or multiple personality disorders (dissociative identity disorder). Doctors at the Center would ignore and dismiss as social contagion the claims about the tics and multiple personalities; but then those doctors would uncritically accept the children’s statements about gender identity and place these children on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

That was in the original Whistleblower column that I linked…. There’s even worse…

[Horace]

@LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

Over a year ago, I think.

But who listens to crazies?

Right. It’s not legitimate until you have a self described hardcore lefty lesbian who’s partner is Trans making these claims.

Who'da thunk that defining straight white males as unworthy of contributing to any social discussion, could have real consequences?

[jon-nyc]

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

I suspect everyone here knows that - not about that podcast per se, but that it's gotten attention from critical right wing and centrist media sources. The difference here is we have an insider who is making specific complaints to real authorities. It's basically what happened at Tavistock which eventually led to policy changes in the UK. The main difference is there it only had to happen once, here it may need to happen on a state by state basis.

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

@Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

I suspect everyone here knows that - not about that podcast per se, but that it's gotten attention from critical right wing and centrist media sources. The difference here is we have an insider who is making specific complaints to real authorities. It's basically what happened at Tavistock which eventually led to policy changes in the UK. The main difference is there it only had to happen once, here it may need to happen on a state by state basis.

The interesting point to me is that the only insider who felt emboldened and objective enough to blow a whistle, was a card carrying oppressed person. Why do you suppose that is?

Were the cis white people too afraid of the social death penalty to follow their conscience?

Was the lesbian married to a trans person the only insider who was confident enough in her moral conclusions to say them out loud, and do something about it? Are mainstream oppressor types, after being taught their thoughts and feels are of no real value or truthiness, dismantled psychologically to a point where they place no value on any of their own moral conclusions that don't coincide with their socially mandated leftism?

In other words, are feminized leftist straight white males genuinely confused about their own morals anymore? Have they largely outsourced their own moral compass to the leftist mob, in an effort to fit in socially as best they can?

These are all only food for thought. Of course these are extraordinarily advanced concepts, that I do not expect to have real discussions about with any lefty.