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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

    There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

    How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

    And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

    Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

    Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

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    @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

    @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

    There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

    How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

    And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

    Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

    Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

    One could hope. It would be an interesting flash point where the parent would be martyred by much of the media coverage, but it would force some discussion.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

      @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

      There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

      How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

      And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

      Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

      Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

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      @LuFins-Dad

      It’s hard to imagine state interference going beyond (1) preventing medical intervention of minors and (2) preventing schools from changing name/pronouns etc w/o parental consent.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

        There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

        How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

        And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

        Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

        Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

        @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

        There seems to be a turning right now. The British clinic that’s been shut down and the thousand lawsuits… This story… The various states passing bans on Trans treatment for minors, period… With or without parental consent…

        How far does it go? Because in my opinion, every teacher and administrator in every school district that went along with the principal of not informing parents have demonstrated a total and complete unfitness for their positions and should not be allowed within 500 feet of any child. That would essentially break the public school system.

        And at what point do people start considering whether parents that DID approve these treatments and did subject their children to these dangerous drugs are fit to be parents? I could easily see the pendulum swinging that far…

        Often parents are not unified about these things. And guess which parent is pro-mutilation and which is anti-mutilation, in the vast majority of cases? You guessed it, progressive women are all in, and the guys they marry sometimes put up a fight. Sometimes.

        Take that Disney executive that bragged about having a trans kid… Let’s say she was moved to Florida… I could see Florida Child Services paying a visit, could you?

        Would tickle me pink.

        Abuse is abuse. No different than beating your child on the front lawn.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
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          The actual affidavit. Much more detail than the article. Worth skimming.

          https://ago.mo.gov/docs/default-source/press-releases/2-07-2023-reed-affidavit---signed.pdf

          Only non-witches get due process.

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            Example:

            Social media is at least partly responsible for this large increase in children seeking gender transition treatment from the Center. Many children themselves would say that they learned of their gender identities from TikTok. Children would arrive at the Center identifying not only as transgender, but also as having tic disorders (Tourette Syndrome) or multiple personality disorders (dissociative identity disorder). Doctors at the Center would ignore and dismiss as social contagion the claims about the tics and multiple personalities; but then those doctors would uncritically accept the children’s statements about gender identity and place these children on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this. It’s legit interesting watching the mainstream leftist media countenance this topic that any ostensibly decent adult human being knows has a good side, and an evil side, when the evil side happens to reside on the left in this case.

              My guess is that the way forward for the cognitively dissonant leftist is to not think or talk about it at all.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this. It’s legit interesting watching the mainstream leftist media countenance this topic that any ostensibly decent adult human being knows has a good side, and an evil side, when the evil side happens to reside on the left in this case.

                My guess is that the way forward for the cognitively dissonant leftist is to not think or talk about it at all.

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                @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                Over a year ago, I think.

                But who listens to crazies?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                  Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                  Over a year ago, I think.

                  But who listens to crazies?

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                  @Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                  @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                  Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                  Over a year ago, I think.

                  But who listens to crazies?

                  The value of shooting and murdering the credibility of the messenger is no more apparent than when those undead zombie messengers are the only ones pointing out to the general public that their mainstream culture is completely off the rails, and legit evil in certain particular ways.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                    Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                    Over a year ago, I think.

                    But who listens to crazies?

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                    @Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                    @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                    Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                    Over a year ago, I think.

                    But who listens to crazies?

                    Right. It’s not legitimate until you have a self described hardcore lefty lesbian who’s partner is Trans making these claims.

                    The Brad

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                      Example:

                      Social media is at least partly responsible for this large increase in children seeking gender transition treatment from the Center. Many children themselves would say that they learned of their gender identities from TikTok. Children would arrive at the Center identifying not only as transgender, but also as having tic disorders (Tourette Syndrome) or multiple personality disorders (dissociative identity disorder). Doctors at the Center would ignore and dismiss as social contagion the claims about the tics and multiple personalities; but then those doctors would uncritically accept the children’s statements about gender identity and place these children on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                      Example:

                      Social media is at least partly responsible for this large increase in children seeking gender transition treatment from the Center. Many children themselves would say that they learned of their gender identities from TikTok. Children would arrive at the Center identifying not only as transgender, but also as having tic disorders (Tourette Syndrome) or multiple personality disorders (dissociative identity disorder). Doctors at the Center would ignore and dismiss as social contagion the claims about the tics and multiple personalities; but then those doctors would uncritically accept the children’s statements about gender identity and place these children on puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.

                      That was in the original Whistleblower column that I linked…. There’s even worse…

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                        @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                        Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                        Over a year ago, I think.

                        But who listens to crazies?

                        Right. It’s not legitimate until you have a self described hardcore lefty lesbian who’s partner is Trans making these claims.

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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                        @Jolly said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                        @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                        Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                        Over a year ago, I think.

                        But who listens to crazies?

                        Right. It’s not legitimate until you have a self described hardcore lefty lesbian who’s partner is Trans making these claims.

                        Who'da thunk that defining straight white males as unworthy of contributing to any social discussion, could have real consequences?

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this. It’s legit interesting watching the mainstream leftist media countenance this topic that any ostensibly decent adult human being knows has a good side, and an evil side, when the evil side happens to reside on the left in this case.

                          My guess is that the way forward for the cognitively dissonant leftist is to not think or talk about it at all.

                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nycJ Online
                          jon-nyc
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                          @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                          Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                          I suspect everyone here knows that - not about that podcast per se, but that it's gotten attention from critical right wing and centrist media sources. The difference here is we have an insider who is making specific complaints to real authorities. It's basically what happened at Tavistock which eventually led to policy changes in the UK. The main difference is there it only had to happen once, here it may need to happen on a state by state basis.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                            Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                            I suspect everyone here knows that - not about that podcast per se, but that it's gotten attention from critical right wing and centrist media sources. The difference here is we have an insider who is making specific complaints to real authorities. It's basically what happened at Tavistock which eventually led to policy changes in the UK. The main difference is there it only had to happen once, here it may need to happen on a state by state basis.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                            @Horace said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                            Plenty of right wing media like Daily Wire podcasts have been all over this.

                            I suspect everyone here knows that - not about that podcast per se, but that it's gotten attention from critical right wing and centrist media sources. The difference here is we have an insider who is making specific complaints to real authorities. It's basically what happened at Tavistock which eventually led to policy changes in the UK. The main difference is there it only had to happen once, here it may need to happen on a state by state basis.

                            The interesting point to me is that the only insider who felt emboldened and objective enough to blow a whistle, was a card carrying oppressed person. Why do you suppose that is?

                            Were the cis white people too afraid of the social death penalty to follow their conscience?

                            Was the lesbian married to a trans person the only insider who was confident enough in her moral conclusions to say them out loud, and do something about it? Are mainstream oppressor types, after being taught their thoughts and feels are of no real value or truthiness, dismantled psychologically to a point where they place no value on any of their own moral conclusions that don't coincide with their socially mandated leftism?

                            In other words, are feminized leftist straight white males genuinely confused about their own morals anymore? Have they largely outsourced their own moral compass to the leftist mob, in an effort to fit in socially as best they can?

                            These are all only food for thought. Of course these are extraordinarily advanced concepts, that I do not expect to have real discussions about with any lefty.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                That's The Daily Mail.

                                'Nuff said

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                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  At some point, even indoctrinated lefties have to have a trace of an individual moral compass, free from socially mandated leftism, and they'll have to fear for either their own souls, their own self respect, or at least, social shaming in the not too distant future against anybody who was blindly pro-mutilation.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    I am hoping that this exposure is going to give the useful idiots the cover they need to start leaving their entrenchments… I’m sure it will only be in regard to medical intervention with minors, though. They will still try to stuff Genderqueer books and teaching in the schools and still promote experimenting with gender and sexuality, just don’t do anything medical…

                                    The Brad

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                                      @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                      A group of 10 year old girls, presumably friends, all decide that they're "trans".

                                      Let that sink in.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                        A group of 10 year old girls, presumably friends, all decide that they're "trans".

                                        Let that sink in.

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                                        @George-K said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                        A group of 10 year old girls, presumably friends, all decide that they're "trans".

                                        Let that sink in.

                                        And the clinic said “Take two of these and call me in the morning” while encouraging the school district to support the transition.

                                        The Brad

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          @jon-nyc said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                          A group of 10 year old girls, presumably friends, all decide that they're "trans".

                                          Let that sink in.

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                                          @George-K said in Anyone following the Wash U adolescent gender clinic whistleblower case?:

                                          A group of 10 year old girls, presumably friends, all decide that they're "trans".

                                          They should also all get TRANS tattoos on their foreheads.

                                          Just so they could affirm each other.

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