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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

    I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

    How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

    I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

    I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

    It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

    How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

    I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

    So much for 'First, do no harm'.

    I was only joking

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      George K
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      Every hour you spend studying diversity, art, poetry, racial inequity in medical school is an hour you don't spend studying physiology, anatomy, pharmacology, histology.

      Time is a fixed resource. Use it wisely.

      Believe me, I'm all for liberal arts.

      ALL. FOR. IT.

      Every hour you spend studying poetry, literature, history makes you a better person. I cherished the time I spent in a grad-level music history class for two quarters.

      But, does a semester's study of racial inequities make you a better plumber, a better electrician, a better doctor?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • George KG George K

        Every hour you spend studying diversity, art, poetry, racial inequity in medical school is an hour you don't spend studying physiology, anatomy, pharmacology, histology.

        Time is a fixed resource. Use it wisely.

        Believe me, I'm all for liberal arts.

        ALL. FOR. IT.

        Every hour you spend studying poetry, literature, history makes you a better person. I cherished the time I spent in a grad-level music history class for two quarters.

        But, does a semester's study of racial inequities make you a better plumber, a better electrician, a better doctor?

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #30

        @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

        Every hour you spend studying diversity, art, poetry, racial inequity in medical school is an hour you don't spend studying physiology, anatomy, pharmacology, histology.

        Time is a fixed resource. Use it wisely.

        Believe me, I'm all for liberal arts.

        ALL. FOR. IT.

        Every hour you spend studying poetry, literature, history makes you a better person. I cherished the time I spent in a grad-level music history class for two quarters.

        But, does a semester's study of racial inequities make you a better plumber, a better electrician, a better doctor?

        I've said this before but the US is different from the UK. Every single course I did bar one was either maths or physics, or in some cases both. The bar-one was computer programming - that was their idea of an hour off. A bachelor's degree is 3 years rather than 4. From my experience working with American engineers, I'm not convinced they know more about the arts than I do. In fact, I'm absolutely bloody certain that they don't. They're a bunch of philistines.

        Which is a bit odd, really. I think that teaching people who want to get an engineering degree about English literature or music or history possibly turns it into a chore, rather than something to explore in your spare time. Stuff we do because we want to is much more likely to actually have an impact.

        I was only joking

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        • AxtremusA Away
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          Axtremus
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          The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

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            @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

            The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

            There's a graduate entry program in the UK. The standard medical degree is 5-6 years, but graduate entry program is 4 years, which I think is the same as the US.

            I was only joking

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              U should hear me rap.

              I’m a gansta

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                Doctor Phibes
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                Putting the 'c' in rap.

                I was only joking

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

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                  @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                  The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

                  Uh, no.

                  A bachelor's degree is not required to attend medical school.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • bachophileB bachophile

                    U should hear me rap.

                    I’m a gansta

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                    @bachophile said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                    U should hear me rap.

                    I’m a gansta

                    American or Israeli?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

                      Uh, no.

                      A bachelor's degree is not required to attend medical school.

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                      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      A bachelor's degree is not required to attend medical school.

                      Back in the day, Northwestern had a "Honors Medical Program." If you were accepted into this program, and they took about 60 per year, you would attend undergraduate classes, with a heavy emphasis on sciences, for two years. After two years, you would join the "regular" 1st year medical school class. Having completed the 1st year of medical school, you would get a "BSM" degree - "Bachelor of Science in Medicine." So with undergrad and medical school, it was a 6 year program.

                      I was part of the 8 year program, even though I completed my BA in a bit over 3 years.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Jolly
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                        #38

                        LSU Med:

                        Minimum academic requirements for admission are satisfactory completion of the required subjects as specified below along with a total of ninety hours of acceptable credit hours at the time of matriculation into medical school. All coursework must be completed in a satisfactory manner, at a grade-level of C or better, in an educational institution within the United States or Canada that has been approved by an appropriate accrediting agency. If your school accepts an online course as credit toward a degree, then we will accept that course also. This applies ONLY to lecture-based courses. Any lab work should be done in person. This applies to both prerequisite and upper level science courses. The school which offers the online course must be an ACCREDITED American or Canadian university, college, or community college.

                        Acceptance of advanced placement for credit toward fulfilling specific requirements in the sciences (biology, chemistry, and physics) may be approved on a case-by-case basis. Transfer credit from medical schools outside of the United States is generally not permissible.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          BTW, average GPA of incoming classes has been almost 3.8 (4.0 scale) MCAT of 508. It's about the same for Tulane (and a lot more money).

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            George K
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                            #40

                            Columbia is not to be outdone.

                            I'm sorry...

                            Who the FUCK has this kind of time during medical school? If you do, your school is seriously fucked up.

                            My schedule in freshman year:

                            Every day - lab and lecture are interchangeable:

                            • Wake at 7. Shower, shave, dress, breakfast.
                            • Class at 8. Finish at 10 - two lectures. Lab from 10-12.
                            • Lunch 12 to 1.
                            • Class from 1-3, or lab 3-4.
                            • Study 4-6.
                            • Dinner 6-7
                            • Study 7-10.
                            • Break 10-10:30
                            • Study 10:30 to midnight
                            • Sleep 12 midnight to 7 AM

                            Every goddamn day for a year.

                            Weekends were different.

                            Saturday, no classes.

                            • Wake at 7. Shower, shave, dress, breakfast.
                            • Study from 8 AM to noon.
                            • Stop, Just stop.

                            Sunday, no classes

                            • Study 12 PM to midnight.
                            • Sleep
                            • See Monday

                            These self-righteous snowflakes piss me off to no end. Other than sleep and study, I had about 24 hours per week for myself - seeing my (first) wife, and family. Reading, music, etc. And that 36 hours includes sleep time.

                            Fuck them, bigly.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

                              In the interests of research, obviously.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

                                In the interests of research, obviously.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

                                i could have done some serious drinking at the weekend as well. Had I done so, I doubt I would have had time to produce or participate in such a nice dance video.

                                Over the weekend I chose to see my (first) wife and family.

                                Priorities:

                                • drinking
                                • girlfriend
                                • family

                                There you go.

                                But the bigger issue is that these kids consider this to be important. Self-aggrandizing "look at how cool I am" videos might convey a message they don't plan for.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                                    But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                                    It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                                      But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                                      But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

                                      Not a clue.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • JollyJ Jolly

                                        Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

                                        Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

                                        I dare say it still is. We may frown at their shenanigans, but it's not exactly the end of the world.

                                        I was only joking

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                                          By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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