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  • bachophileB bachophile

    U should hear me rap.

    I’m a gansta

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    @bachophile said in They never taught this in my medical school:

    U should hear me rap.

    I’m a gansta

    American or Israeli?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

      The US is also somewhat unique in that a medical student is required to first get a Bachelor's degree in something/anything before he can enroll in medical school; medical school is treated as graduate study. Most other countries allow qualified students to directly enroll in medical school without first getting a Bachelor's degree.

      Uh, no.

      A bachelor's degree is not required to attend medical school.

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      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

      A bachelor's degree is not required to attend medical school.

      Back in the day, Northwestern had a "Honors Medical Program." If you were accepted into this program, and they took about 60 per year, you would attend undergraduate classes, with a heavy emphasis on sciences, for two years. After two years, you would join the "regular" 1st year medical school class. Having completed the 1st year of medical school, you would get a "BSM" degree - "Bachelor of Science in Medicine." So with undergrad and medical school, it was a 6 year program.

      I was part of the 8 year program, even though I completed my BA in a bit over 3 years.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        LSU Med:

        Minimum academic requirements for admission are satisfactory completion of the required subjects as specified below along with a total of ninety hours of acceptable credit hours at the time of matriculation into medical school. All coursework must be completed in a satisfactory manner, at a grade-level of C or better, in an educational institution within the United States or Canada that has been approved by an appropriate accrediting agency. If your school accepts an online course as credit toward a degree, then we will accept that course also. This applies ONLY to lecture-based courses. Any lab work should be done in person. This applies to both prerequisite and upper level science courses. The school which offers the online course must be an ACCREDITED American or Canadian university, college, or community college.

        Acceptance of advanced placement for credit toward fulfilling specific requirements in the sciences (biology, chemistry, and physics) may be approved on a case-by-case basis. Transfer credit from medical schools outside of the United States is generally not permissible.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          BTW, average GPA of incoming classes has been almost 3.8 (4.0 scale) MCAT of 508. It's about the same for Tulane (and a lot more money).

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Columbia is not to be outdone.

            I'm sorry...

            Who the FUCK has this kind of time during medical school? If you do, your school is seriously fucked up.

            My schedule in freshman year:

            Every day - lab and lecture are interchangeable:

            • Wake at 7. Shower, shave, dress, breakfast.
            • Class at 8. Finish at 10 - two lectures. Lab from 10-12.
            • Lunch 12 to 1.
            • Class from 1-3, or lab 3-4.
            • Study 4-6.
            • Dinner 6-7
            • Study 7-10.
            • Break 10-10:30
            • Study 10:30 to midnight
            • Sleep 12 midnight to 7 AM

            Every goddamn day for a year.

            Weekends were different.

            Saturday, no classes.

            • Wake at 7. Shower, shave, dress, breakfast.
            • Study from 8 AM to noon.
            • Stop, Just stop.

            Sunday, no classes

            • Study 12 PM to midnight.
            • Sleep
            • See Monday

            These self-righteous snowflakes piss me off to no end. Other than sleep and study, I had about 24 hours per week for myself - seeing my (first) wife, and family. Reading, music, etc. And that 36 hours includes sleep time.

            Fuck them, bigly.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

              In the interests of research, obviously.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

                In the interests of research, obviously.

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                @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                The medical students I knew did some pretty serious drinking at the weekend.

                i could have done some serious drinking at the weekend as well. Had I done so, I doubt I would have had time to produce or participate in such a nice dance video.

                Over the weekend I chose to see my (first) wife and family.

                Priorities:

                • drinking
                • girlfriend
                • family

                There you go.

                But the bigger issue is that these kids consider this to be important. Self-aggrandizing "look at how cool I am" videos might convey a message they don't plan for.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

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                    @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                    There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                    But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                    It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                      But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

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                      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up.

                      But still, according to @Aqua-Letifer:

                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves.

                      Not a clue.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

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                        @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        Here's what George isn't saying... There ain't no dummies in med school. These are very smart people absolutely busting their ass to keep up. At least it used to be that way...

                        I dare say it still is. We may frown at their shenanigans, but it's not exactly the end of the world.

                        I was only joking

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                          By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

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                            @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                            As far as Harvard goes, my experience of wandering around the Cambridge, MA area is that there's no shortage of honky students.

                            I was only joking

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                              @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                              By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                              As far as Harvard goes, my experience of wandering around the Cambridge, MA area is that there's no shortage of honky students.

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                              @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                              @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                              By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                              As far as Harvard goes, my experience of wandering around the Cambridge, MA area is that there's no shortage of honky students.

                              Point being, who thinks it's a good idea to do this video?

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                By the way, in the Columbia video, count all the white males....

                                As far as Harvard goes, my experience of wandering around the Cambridge, MA area is that there's no shortage of honky students.

                                Point being, who thinks it's a good idea to do this video?

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                                @Horace said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                Point being, who thinks it's a good idea to do this video?

                                I think there's definitely a risk of taking this whole embarrassing attempt to get down with the groovy kids too seriously.

                                I was only joking

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                                  @Horace said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  Point being, who thinks it's a good idea to do this video?

                                  I think there's definitely a risk of taking this whole embarrassing attempt to get down with the groovy kids too seriously.

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                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  @Horace said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  Point being, who thinks it's a good idea to do this video?

                                  I think there's definitely a risk of taking this whole embarrassing attempt to get down with the groovy kids too seriously.

                                  I think it's a bunch of people who think they wear an "oppressed" badge rubbing in the faces of everybody who watches their video, that they win and you lose. I mean that was the point of the Harvard one. Not sure about the Columbia one, which I didn't have the stomach to watch. But I saw the phenotypes who participated.

                                  Their attitude piggybacks on our long-standing cultural deification of doctors and higher formal education, and all the oppression narratives that swim in their brains.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    Regarding the oppression narratives, of course nearly all, if not all, of the young women participating in that nonsense, came from upper middle class (or more) two-parent homes. Ok I don't have data to back that up, but I will go ahead and claim it anyway. Oppression-face is so tricky. You can easily belong to a class that would statistically be expected to succeed economically, while looking like the sort of person who would be less likely to succeed.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Regarding the oppression narratives, of course nearly all, if not all, of the young women participating in that nonsense, came from upper middle class (or more) two-parent homes. Ok I don't have data to back that up, but I will go ahead and claim it anyway. Oppression-face is so tricky. You can easily belong to a class that would statistically be expected to succeed economically, while looking like the sort of person who would be less likely to succeed.

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                                      @Horace Where do you see the claim of being victims of oppression in either video?

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                                        @Horace Where do you see the claim of being victims of oppression in either video?

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                                        @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Horace Where do you see the claim of being victims of oppression in either video?

                                        In the messaging and the phenotypes. It's complicated, having to do with cultural, non verbal programming. These are advanced concepts; ones that I attempt to educate about, but am not always successful.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          @Horace Where do you see the claim of being victims of oppression in either video?

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                                          @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Horace Where do you see the claim of being victims of oppression in either video?

                                          An educational perspective might be, to imagine if a bunch of young white males had done the video, and the cultural backlash against that. Maybe you don't think there would be a backlash, and that's ok. I am here to educate, rather than to condemn.

                                          People are ok with venerating high status proctors of important truths, such as highly educated, intelligent doctors, until those doctors take that veneration for granted, rather than as something earned, as a continuing lifestyle of humble work.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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