They never taught this in my medical school

[Jolly]

As a tiny speck of dust on the absolute periphery of a teaching effort for Harvard Medical School, I witnessed how LSUMC had to show them how to set up a treatment and wellness regimen for diabetics in an indigent population.

Their docs ain't no smarter than the better guys at Tulane and LSU.

[George K]

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

[Jolly]

@George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

Didn't you go to Northwestern?

[George K]

@Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

Didn't you go to Northwestern?

Yup. In Chicago. In the midwest.

And when it came to residency, where you went to school was irrelevant. Either you were good, or you weren't. Nobody gave a rat's ass where you went to school.

Same with faculty. I knew some pretty shitty surgeons at Northwestern.

[Aqua Letifer]

@George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

My experience with docs in a professional setting is that they place a lot of value into their associations. So much so that they're willing to believe they're excellent indicators of intelligence, competency in completely unrelated fields, morality, and a truckload of really incredible shit that makes them, in addition to doofuses, very gullible and prone to manipulation.

Could just be docs in DC, but I've plenty of stories to support this.

EDIT to add:
Gaspassers bucked the trend, generally.

[Doctor Phibes]

In my experience with engineering hires, the place where somebody went to school has little to no correlation to how good they are at their job.

Personally, I learnt way more at the supposedly crappy place in South Wales where I did an electrical engineering diploma than I ever did at the highly regarded place where I fucked up my maths and physics degree.

[Mik]

My PCP is well connected in his health system. That has played to my advantage in the past.

[Axtremus]

Probably also not addressed in medical school:

Political ideology's effects on doctors and physicians.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/06/coronavirus-pandemic-conservatives-ivermectin/

Excerpt 1: “[C]onservative physicians were approximately five times more likely than their liberal and moderate colleagues to say that they would treat a hypothetical COVID-19 patient with hydroxychloroquine,” the researchers write. “ … This difference was driven in large part by agreement between liberal and moderate physicians, with conservative physicians displaying polarization that was often comparable to that of conservative laypeople.”
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Excerpt 2: “[P]olitical ideology colors the evaluation of scientific evidence to a greater degree when it pertains to a politicized treatment,” the report reads. “After reading otherwise identical results, partisans’ responses were more polarized when the drug was identified as ivermectin relative to when it was anonymized, with participants who were more conservative reporting that the evidence was less informative, the study was less methodologically rigorous, and the authors were more likely to be biased.” The results, they add, “were not detectably different across lay and physician samples.”

In other words, partisans were more likely to dismiss research undercutting the efficacy of ivermectin when they knew the research was about ivermectin.

[George K]

Moar Harvard...

[Aqua Letifer]

[Jolly]

[George K]

[Doctor Phibes]

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

But really, I was just kidding around. I fully agree the humanities are important, and undervalued.

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

[Aqua Letifer]

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

@Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

OK, but I’m not sure that’s totally clear from your original comment. The fact that I apparently misunderstand what you meant might not actually be my fault here?

[Horace]

I think we all learned a valuable lesson here.