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  • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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    Aqua Letifer
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    Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

    Please love yourself.

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      As a tiny speck of dust on the absolute periphery of a teaching effort for Harvard Medical School, I witnessed how LSUMC had to show them how to set up a treatment and wellness regimen for diabetics in an indigent population.

      Their docs ain't no smarter than the better guys at Tulane and LSU.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

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        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

        Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

        I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

        Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

        And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

        I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

          Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

          I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

          Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

          And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

          I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

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          @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

          Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

          I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

          Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

          And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

          I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

          Didn't you go to Northwestern?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

            Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

            I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

            Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

            And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

            I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

            Didn't you go to Northwestern?

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            @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

            Didn't you go to Northwestern?

            Yup. In Chicago. In the midwest.

            And when it came to residency, where you went to school was irrelevant. Either you were good, or you weren't. Nobody gave a rat's ass where you went to school.

            Same with faculty. I knew some pretty shitty surgeons at Northwestern.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

              Isn't the point of Harvard the connections you make, though? Not necessarily the education?

              I worked with a Urologist who constantly reminded us, "When I was at Harvard..."

              Finally, I asked him, "So, what else have you done since you finished your residency?"

              And. yeah, connections in the medical world I don't think carry the same clout as business and education.

              I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

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              Aqua Letifer
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              @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

              I may be wrong. I went to med school in the midwest.

              My experience with docs in a professional setting is that they place a lot of value into their associations. So much so that they're willing to believe they're excellent indicators of intelligence, competency in completely unrelated fields, morality, and a truckload of really incredible shit that makes them, in addition to doofuses, very gullible and prone to manipulation.

              Could just be docs in DC, but I've plenty of stories to support this.

              EDIT to add:
              Gaspassers bucked the trend, generally.

              Please love yourself.

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                In my experience with engineering hires, the place where somebody went to school has little to no correlation to how good they are at their job.

                Personally, I learnt way more at the supposedly crappy place in South Wales where I did an electrical engineering diploma than I ever did at the highly regarded place where I fucked up my maths and physics degree.

                I was only joking

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                  My PCP is well connected in his health system. That has played to my advantage in the past.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Probably also not addressed in medical school:

                    Political ideology's effects on doctors and physicians.

                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/06/coronavirus-pandemic-conservatives-ivermectin/

                    Excerpt 1: “[C]onservative physicians were approximately five times more likely than their liberal and moderate colleagues to say that they would treat a hypothetical COVID-19 patient with hydroxychloroquine,” the researchers write. “ … This difference was driven in large part by agreement between liberal and moderate physicians, with conservative physicians displaying polarization that was often comparable to that of conservative laypeople.”
                    ...
                    Excerpt 2: “[P]olitical ideology colors the evaluation of scientific evidence to a greater degree when it pertains to a politicized treatment,” the report reads. “After reading otherwise identical results, partisans’ responses were more polarized when the drug was identified as ivermectin relative to when it was anonymized, with participants who were more conservative reporting that the evidence was less informative, the study was less methodologically rigorous, and the authors were more likely to be biased.” The results, they add, “were not detectably different across lay and physician samples.”

                    In other words, partisans were more likely to dismiss research undercutting the efficacy of ivermectin when they knew the research was about ivermectin.

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                      Moar Harvard...

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        Moar Harvard...

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                        @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        Moar Harvard...

                        I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Moar Harvard...

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                          @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          Moar Harvard...

                          You know...I used to think Harvard physicians were hot feces, until I actually had a chance to work with some infernal med docs. It was a joint project between Harvard and LSU med schools to create a treatment protocol based on FBS, non-fasting glucose and Nebraska Standard A1c values.

                          I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            Moar Harvard...

                            You know...I used to think Harvard physicians were hot feces, until I actually had a chance to work with some infernal med docs. It was a joint project between Harvard and LSU med schools to create a treatment protocol based on FBS, non-fasting glucose and Nebraska Standard A1c values.

                            I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

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                            @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

                            One of the criticisms Mrs. George always leveled at me was the fact that I left "The University" to work in a community hospital.

                            Were there more "good surgeons" at the U? Sure were.

                            Were there more bozos? Sure were as well.

                            The proportion doesn't change. There are excellent and idiots everywhere. The fact that you trained at Harvard vs Cook County isn't worth anything.

                            Same thing for internal medicine, OB, etc...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                              @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                              Moar Harvard...

                              I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                              I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                              To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                              I was only joking

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                                @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

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                                @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                                I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                  To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                                  I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                  If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                  But really, I was just kidding around. I fully agree the humanities are important, and undervalued.

                                  I was only joking

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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                    If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                    But really, I was just kidding around. I fully agree the humanities are important, and undervalued.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                    If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                    You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                    Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                    Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                      If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                      You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                      Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                      Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                      If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                      You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                      Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                      Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                      Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                        If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                        You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                        Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                        Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                        Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

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                                        Aqua Letifer
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                        If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                        You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                        Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                        Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                        Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                                        Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                          If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                          You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                          Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                          Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                          Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                                          Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Online
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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                                          If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                                          You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                                          Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                                          Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                                          Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                                          Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

                                          OK, but I’m not sure that’s totally clear from your original comment. The fact that I apparently misunderstand what you meant might not actually be my fault here?

                                          I was only joking

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