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  • MikM Offline
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    My PCP is well connected in his health system. That has played to my advantage in the past.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • AxtremusA Away
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      Probably also not addressed in medical school:

      Political ideology's effects on doctors and physicians.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/06/coronavirus-pandemic-conservatives-ivermectin/

      Excerpt 1: “[C]onservative physicians were approximately five times more likely than their liberal and moderate colleagues to say that they would treat a hypothetical COVID-19 patient with hydroxychloroquine,” the researchers write. “ … This difference was driven in large part by agreement between liberal and moderate physicians, with conservative physicians displaying polarization that was often comparable to that of conservative laypeople.”
      ...
      Excerpt 2: “[P]olitical ideology colors the evaluation of scientific evidence to a greater degree when it pertains to a politicized treatment,” the report reads. “After reading otherwise identical results, partisans’ responses were more polarized when the drug was identified as ivermectin relative to when it was anonymized, with participants who were more conservative reporting that the evidence was less informative, the study was less methodologically rigorous, and the authors were more likely to be biased.” The results, they add, “were not detectably different across lay and physician samples.”

      In other words, partisans were more likely to dismiss research undercutting the efficacy of ivermectin when they knew the research was about ivermectin.

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      • George KG Offline
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        #11

        Moar Harvard...

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          Moar Harvard...

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          #12

          @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

          Moar Harvard...

          I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

          Please love yourself.

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          • George KG George K

            Moar Harvard...

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            @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

            Moar Harvard...

            You know...I used to think Harvard physicians were hot feces, until I actually had a chance to work with some infernal med docs. It was a joint project between Harvard and LSU med schools to create a treatment protocol based on FBS, non-fasting glucose and Nebraska Standard A1c values.

            I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

              Moar Harvard...

              You know...I used to think Harvard physicians were hot feces, until I actually had a chance to work with some infernal med docs. It was a joint project between Harvard and LSU med schools to create a treatment protocol based on FBS, non-fasting glucose and Nebraska Standard A1c values.

              I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

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              @Jolly said in They never taught this in my medical school:

              I didn't see where their guys were any better than our guys. Not really.

              One of the criticisms Mrs. George always leveled at me was the fact that I left "The University" to work in a community hospital.

              Were there more "good surgeons" at the U? Sure were.

              Were there more bozos? Sure were as well.

              The proportion doesn't change. There are excellent and idiots everywhere. The fact that you trained at Harvard vs Cook County isn't worth anything.

              Same thing for internal medicine, OB, etc...

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                Moar Harvard...

                I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                  I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                  To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                  @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                  I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                  To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                  I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                    I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                    To be honest, I'm not sure I want to watch rap performed by a bunch of humanities students, either 😆

                    I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

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                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                    I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                    If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                    But really, I was just kidding around. I fully agree the humanities are important, and undervalued.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                      If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                      But really, I was just kidding around. I fully agree the humanities are important, and undervalued.

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                      @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                      I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                      If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                      You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                      Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                      Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                      Please love yourself.

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                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                        If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                        You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                        Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                        Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

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                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                        I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                        If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                        You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                        Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                        Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                        Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                        I was only joking

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                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                          If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                          You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                          Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                          Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                          Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

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                          Aqua Letifer
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                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                          I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                          If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                          You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                          Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                          Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                          Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                          Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                            If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                            You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                            Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                            Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                            Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                            Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                            I didn't say humanities students, I said studying the humanities. You learn tricky distinctions like that by studying the humanities.

                            If I wanted to be an asshole I'd post a load of music played by people without humanities degrees and challenge you to find people who studied humanites who could do it better.

                            You're still not getting it. Try to follow along.

                            Being in a band, starting with covers, listening to a shitload and then writing your own stuff is "studying the humanities." So is looking at yourself, seeing that you have the rhythm of a vacuum cleaner and deciding not to rap things.

                            Sitting in a desk in a lecture hall is getting a degree. The two aren't the same. Sometimes they overlap; these days, mostly they don't.

                            Impressive bobbing and weaving there, but when people talk about Miles Davis or Beethoven they don’t typically say ‘Oh, he studied the humanities so well….’

                            Just the same that's what he did. That's what they fucking are.

                            OK, but I’m not sure that’s totally clear from your original comment. The fact that I apparently misunderstand what you meant might not actually be my fault here?

                            I was only joking

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                              I think we all learned a valuable lesson here.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                I think we all learned a valuable lesson here.

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                                @Horace said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                I think we all learned a valuable lesson here.

                                Education is extremely important?

                                I was only joking

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  @George-K said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  Moar Harvard...

                                  I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  AxtremusA Away
                                  Axtremus
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                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                  I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                  How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                  Have you compared the humanities requirements across Harvard medical school's prerequisites & curriculum and other medical schools' prerequisites & curricula?

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                    How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                    Have you compared the humanities requirements across Harvard medical school's prerequisites & curriculum and other medical schools' prerequisites & curricula?

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                                    @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                    I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                    How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                    I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                    I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                    It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                    How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                      How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                      I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                      I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                      How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      AxtremusA Away
                                      Axtremus
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                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                      I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                      How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                      I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                      I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                      It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                      How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

                                      None of what you wrote above speaks to 'How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups,' does it?

                                      What are you trying to express? 😉

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                        How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                        I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                        I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                        It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                        How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

                                        None of what you wrote above speaks to 'How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups,' does it?

                                        What are you trying to express? 😉

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                                        @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                        I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                        How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                        I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                        I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                        It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                        How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

                                        None of what you wrote above speaks to 'How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups,' does it?

                                        What are you trying to express? 😉

                                        That I don't enjoy talking with you.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @Axtremus said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          I'm saving this for the next time anyone says studying the humanities is a waste of tine.

                                          How do you know whether the "Harvard MDs" have studied more or less humanities than other groups?

                                          I've worked with doctors. Many, many doctors.

                                          I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                          It's incredible how categorically terrible most of them are at expressing themselves. But not all of them.

                                          How many plays, songs and raps from doctors have you been exposed to?

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                                          @Aqua-Letifer said in They never taught this in my medical school:

                                          I've seen plays written by doctors, heard music composed by doctors. And this is sadly far from the first rap I've heard from doctors.

                                          So much for 'First, do no harm'.

                                          I was only joking

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