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F'ing GoDaddy

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    I have owned my own domain since 2007. The cost of owning it has been negligible, perhaps $40 a year or so.

    But...in addition to that, GoDaddy has "tacked" on other things - like, for example, you have to pay extra for email associated with that domain. I use 2 emails for that domain (mine and Mrs. George). Those emails are hosed by Microsoft Exchange. As part of GoDaddy's association with Micro$oft, they offer Office 365.

    Well, the email plan is up for renewal. For 3 years, for Mrs. George and me, it's $501. It's the "Essentials Plus" plan. It offers 50Gb of storage for your domain and email per plan. I don't need that kind of storage, so I wanted to downgrade to "Essentials" which offers 10Gb of storage.

    Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 7.24.55 AM.png

    If you want to keep using Office 365, you have to upgrade to a business plan.

    Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 7.25.52 AM.png

    Well, it turns out that the plans that add Office are price(ier), adding $150 to the package. I can get a license for Office through Amazon for $90 or so.

    I spent an hour chatting with some guy last night at GoDaddy.

    Long story short, it's impossible to downgrade my current plan. Either renew or upgrade to the "Business" plan.

    Fuck 'em.

    I looked around and it turns out that there are lots of email services that will provide email for my domain at $4 a month or so. And, I don't have to transfer my domain to them - it stays at GoDaddy. "All" i have to do is change the "MX setting" at GoDaddy to direct my mail to the new service. Currently the MX setting points to Microsoft Exchange.

    So, it should be pretty simple.

    Am I missing something?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      Looks to me like you’ll be the master of your own domain.

      If you don't take it, it can only good happen.

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      • George KG Offline
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        George K
        wrote on last edited by George K
        #3

        Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 7.44.11 AM.png

        It breaks down to about $13 a month. Why pay that when I can get the same service for $3.95?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          George, changing email service provider while keeping the same domain name registrar by changing DNS MX record is standard practice, so chances are good that you will be fine.

          Consider keeping the old Microsoft Exchange service for a while after you switch over to the new email service just to have a way to "undo" in case the new service does not work out. DNS record change sometimes may take a while to propagate throughout the Internet, so maybe give it a few days before you judge the change "doesn't work."

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            George, changing email service provider while keeping the same domain name registrar by changing DNS MX record is standard practice, so chances are good that you will be fine.

            Consider keeping the old Microsoft Exchange service for a while after you switch over to the new email service just to have a way to "undo" in case the new service does not work out. DNS record change sometimes may take a while to propagate throughout the Internet, so maybe give it a few days before you judge the change "doesn't work."

            George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Axtremus said in F'ing GoDaddy:

            George, changing email service provider while keeping the same domain name registrar by changing DNS MX record is standard practice, so chances are good that you will be fine.

            Consider keeping the old Microsoft Exchange service for a while after you switch over to the new email service just to have a way to "undo" in case the new service does not work out. DNS record change sometimes may take a while to propagate throughout the Internet, so maybe give it a few days before you judge the change "doesn't work."

            I was hoping you'd chime in - thank you.

            Yeah, my plan is good for another week or so, so I'll keep both. I may need some help in changing the DNS MX records, but the folks at the company I'm looking at, "Bluehost," assure me that it's pretty easy.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
              wrote on last edited by
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              Another thing...

              My emails are set up to direct and receive via "secureserver.net" which, I assume, is part of GoDaddy's thing. If I change the MX DNS, that wouldn't change, right?

              Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 8.20.45 AM.png

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Away
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                Mik
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                #7

                Forget 365. Use LibreOffice. It’s like an older version of Office, but it lacks very little functionality and likely nothing you’d need.

                "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                • George KG George K

                  Another thing...

                  My emails are set up to direct and receive via "secureserver.net" which, I assume, is part of GoDaddy's thing. If I change the MX DNS, that wouldn't change, right?

                  Screenshot 2023-02-05 at 8.20.45 AM.png

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @George-K , about those "CNAME" entries, you don't have to worry about them if you only give out your email address in the form of yourUserName@yourDomain.com .

                  Some people give out email addresses like yourUserName@email.yourDomain.com or yourUserName@mail.yourDomain.com ... or they choose to login to email.yourDomain.com or mail.yourDomain.com to access their emails. In these situations you may have to worry about those CNAME entries. Otherwise you should be fine without worrying about those CNAME entries.

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                    @George-K , @Axtremus told me about tiger tech and that is who I use when I bought a domain.

                    In USD, it is $120/year

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      So...

                      Setting things up was a bit more difficult than I anticipated.

                      I signed up with Bluehost.com for my email.

                      After taking my money, there was no easy way to transition from GoDaddy/Exchange. I spent about an hour with tech support this PM changing DNS settings, etc.

                      They were spectacularly unhelpful - or perhaps spectacularly wrong.

                      After a couple of hours of not receiving or being able to send email, I contacted tech support again.

                      "Preena" was great. She (?) looked at my DNS settings at GoDaddy, and held my hand while I changed settings on the "A" setting, the "MX" setting etc.

                      No joy.

                      And then, she asked me to look at various CNAME settings. I deleted a bunch of them and now, it looks like I'm able to receive mails from my domain.

                      I've yet to try sending, but I think it'll be OK.

                      Yeah, a hassle, but not hard.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Looks to me like you’ll be the master of your own domain.

                        89th8 Offline
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                        89th
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @jon-nyc said in F'ing GoDaddy:

                        Looks to me like you’ll be the master of your own domain.

                        POTD (3 days ago)

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                        • George KG George K

                          So...

                          Setting things up was a bit more difficult than I anticipated.

                          I signed up with Bluehost.com for my email.

                          After taking my money, there was no easy way to transition from GoDaddy/Exchange. I spent about an hour with tech support this PM changing DNS settings, etc.

                          They were spectacularly unhelpful - or perhaps spectacularly wrong.

                          After a couple of hours of not receiving or being able to send email, I contacted tech support again.

                          "Preena" was great. She (?) looked at my DNS settings at GoDaddy, and held my hand while I changed settings on the "A" setting, the "MX" setting etc.

                          No joy.

                          And then, she asked me to look at various CNAME settings. I deleted a bunch of them and now, it looks like I'm able to receive mails from my domain.

                          I've yet to try sending, but I think it'll be OK.

                          Yeah, a hassle, but not hard.

                          89th8 Offline
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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @George-K Have you been able to send emails? I recall jumping through similiar hoops a few years ago when I used a GoDaddy domain but switched email over to Zoho or another email provider. Indeed it took a little messing with the DNS records (cname, a, etc...) but eventually it worked. Yes I believe the secureserver.net is a godaddy thing.

                          I wish Danica Patrick would chime in here with some support. Any type of support. ANY.

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            George K
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            Yeah, the secureserver was a GoDaddy thing. Got rid of those and all was fine.

                            Until mails sent to gmail accounts started bouncing back.

                            Had to change some DNS settings again at GoDaddy. All appears to be fine now.

                            The question is ... what to do with all my old emails that are sitting on a MS Exchange server. Should I try to transfer them to Bluehost, or download them to my computer.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              Yeah, the secureserver was a GoDaddy thing. Got rid of those and all was fine.

                              Until mails sent to gmail accounts started bouncing back.

                              Had to change some DNS settings again at GoDaddy. All appears to be fine now.

                              The question is ... what to do with all my old emails that are sitting on a MS Exchange server. Should I try to transfer them to Bluehost, or download them to my computer.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
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                              @George-K , mind posting another screenshot showing your DNS entries on GoDaddy? Feel free to mask your domain name, of course, just leave the host name portions. Curious to see what CNAME entries you have to preserve/remove/change to make email work with a different provider. Thanks.

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                              • George KG George K

                                Yeah, the secureserver was a GoDaddy thing. Got rid of those and all was fine.

                                Until mails sent to gmail accounts started bouncing back.

                                Had to change some DNS settings again at GoDaddy. All appears to be fine now.

                                The question is ... what to do with all my old emails that are sitting on a MS Exchange server. Should I try to transfer them to Bluehost, or download them to my computer.

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                                89th
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                                #15

                                @George-K said in F'ing GoDaddy:

                                The question is ... what to do with all my old emails that are sitting on a MS Exchange server. Should I try to transfer them to Bluehost, or download them to my computer.

                                Depends if you need them? I would download to computer/cloud for archiving.

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                                  89th
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                                  Here are the DNS settings I used when I set up email via Zoho for a website. I'd imagine this isn't fine tuned and not perfect, but it got the job done a few years ago when I set it. Set it...and forget it.

                                  fc08a9fd-a9f0-4077-a916-523b03f53744-image.png

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                                    George K
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                                    Screenshot 2023-02-09 at 9.00.51 AM.png

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      Thanks!

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                                        HACKED!

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
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                                          I have no idea what any of those things do. Is there a location where I can learn about that?

                                          @89th

                                          You're welcome!

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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