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Thousands of lives ruined

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  • CopperC Offline
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    Copper
    wrote on last edited by
    #5

    It was a simple risk/reward scenario.

    What if the coup had succeeded?

    Our southern border would be intact, all those illegals would be home building their own country instead of trashing ours.

    The war in Ukraine would be over.

    Tucker Carlson would be VP.

    We wouldn't have to worry about presidential elections anymore.

    It was a high stakes game. He took the big risk and lost.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      #6

      You know, what about all the people who were there for the rally, yet we're peaceful? Maybe the main reason the Capitol Police and Pelosi were caught with their pants down, was because these guys had never been violent...They actually had a reputation for picking up after themselves.

      Even for the people who protested at the Capitol, Trump told them to protest, but to protest peacefully. Yet, that protest turned into a riot.

      And yes, whether Jon will admit it or not, there were FBI elements in that riot, who may have known what some were planning. There are even allegations that some of the FBI elements helped whip the crowd up.

      At the end of the day, only one person died as a direct result of the riot, Ms. Babbitt. I think some people were arrested and charged properly, I think others were arrested on the flimsiest of evidence or were vastly overcharged for the crimes they committed. And I firmly believe some of those in the DC jail were treated like they were jailed in a third world dictatorship.

      Lastly, I, like a large percentage of Americans think there was absolutely something dreadfully wrong with the 2020 election.

      And nobody in power, especially on the Left side of the aisle, gives a damn.

      Because Trump.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #7

        Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

          HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

          Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

          or a culture of snowflakes not emotionally capable of accepting a POTUS that activated their disgust response.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

            CopperC Offline
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            Copper
            wrote on last edited by Copper
            #9

            @Horace said in Thousands of lives ruined:

            a POTUS that activated their disgust response

            Clinton or Obama?

            Dumb question, it's both isn't it?

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
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              #10

              I still haven’t been able to learn how the insurrectionists breached copper doors weighing 20,000 pounds…

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                I still haven’t been able to learn how the insurrectionists breached copper doors weighing 20,000 pounds…

                89th8 Offline
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                89th
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                #11

                @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

                  JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  @jon-nyc said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                  Yep. Add that to the list of suffering caused by one single snowflake.

                  Monomaniacal, much?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                    HoraceH Offline
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                    #13

                    @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                    @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                    I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      It was a simple risk/reward scenario.

                      What if the coup had succeeded?

                      Our southern border would be intact, all those illegals would be home building their own country instead of trashing ours.

                      The war in Ukraine would be over.

                      Tucker Carlson would be VP.

                      We wouldn't have to worry about presidential elections anymore.

                      It was a high stakes game. He took the big risk and lost.

                      RenaudaR Offline
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                      Renauda
                      wrote on last edited by Renauda
                      #14

                      @Copper

                      The war in Ukraine would be over.

                      Indeed, there would be no sovereign Ukraine. Ukrainians would be henceforth known to the world again as Little Russians.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                        CopperC Offline
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                        Copper
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                        they broke the windows nearby

                        They used a police shield to break the windows.

                        Did the police break it or did they give their shield to a doofuss?

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                          @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                          I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

                          89th8 Offline
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                          89th
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                          @Horace said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                          @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                          @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                          I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

                          That happened too, but also at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave. I’ll see if I can find a video. The baby is sleeping in my arms…honestly now sure how parents held newborns for hours without a smartphone to stay entertained.

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                            89th
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                            #17

                            Around the 1:38 mark

                            Link to video

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @Horace said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                              @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                              @LuFins-Dad they broke the windows nearby, and those who got in were able to open the doors from inside. If you haven’t seen videos of this I can find some clips.

                              I’d be curious to see those. I was under the impression the doors were unlocked. I remember one video where a cop was standing by while trespassers walked through an open door.

                              That happened too, but also at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave. I’ll see if I can find a video. The baby is sleeping in my arms…honestly now sure how parents held newborns for hours without a smartphone to stay entertained.

                              CopperC Offline
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                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                              at that point the single cop wasn’t going to prevent the human wave

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                                89th
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                                #19

                                Longer and better video. Around 11:00 with the door being kicked open at 13:50.

                                Link to video

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  #20

                                  What's really amazing about this is that only one person was shot.

                                  It could very easily have been a bloodbath. I imagine that eventuality would have given Tucker Carlson enormous pleasure, as he could talk about the tyranny of the government.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #21

                                    Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

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                                      Doctor Phibes
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                                      @Jolly said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                      Tucker has his shtick, no doubt about it. He's not always wrong. In fact, many times he's right. Same thing for Hannity.

                                      When somebody always takes one side of the partisan fence it ceases to matter whether he's right or not, because you know how he's going to spin it. The same thing applies to CNN etc.

                                      Sometimes the Republicans are right, sometimes the Democrats are right. Somebody who's honest should be able to acknowledge this. What Trump did prior to January 6th was flat out wrong.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • 89th8 89th

                                        Around the 1:38 mark

                                        Link to video

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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @89th said in Thousands of lives ruined:

                                        Around the 1:38 mark

                                        Link to video

                                        Thanks 89th.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #24

                                          When I watch that video it makes me wish Ashley Babbitt had been part of a statistic rather than a mere tragedy.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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