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    Loki
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    #25

    I’ve only started it but two thoughts immediately come to mind:

    1. The bigger you are, the harder you fall
    2. Control is an illusion, and while it’s important to enjoy it while you have, beware of the consequences when you learn otherwise.
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      Rainman
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      I feel sorry for the guy, everyone does. At the end of the video, he starts to choke up, like he did frequently in his last videos before SHTF. I suppose maybe deep thinkers like Peterson experience a particularly deep hell.

      The problem with depression, the initial catalyst for Peterson, is something either known, by people that experience it. Or, unknown, by people like me. I don't know what they're talking about, I can't understand what something is like if I've never experienced it.
      I'm more like, "what the F is wrong with you, just man-up, get drunk, get laid, go for a bike ride, pick one or all but quit being such a wuss."

      Or, "tomorrow will be a better day, you'll see."

      What I do know, is if a Dr. ever suggests benzos, I won't agree to it. I wouldn't even take a chance on some drug like that, based on the Peterson story.

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        #27

        I like Jordan Peterson a lot, but something is strange about the Petersons. Such extreme ways of living. I'm not sure I'd trust his daughter. She's venturing too much into conspiracy theory land sometimes.

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          #28

          I don't really understand why you'd interview your dad about this. I do have personal experience of dealing with clinical depression, and the last thing I'd ever do is go into detail in public like this with family members.

          I haven't read any of his books - I am intending to try one, but it also seems like you're setting yourself up a bit by giving this kind of advice.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            I'm comparing you two today to who I was yesterday, and I have to say I feel pretty fucking good about it. Tomorrow seems likely to be even better.

            MikM Away
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            Mik
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            #29

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Jordan Peterson Update:

            I'm comparing you two today to who I was yesterday, and I have to say I feel pretty fucking good about it. Tomorrow seems likely to be even better.

            See? Drunk posting is not so bad!

            By the way, TLDW on the video.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • HoraceH Horace

              zoologists have often noted that male humans with white skin (note "white" here is not to be taken literally, but rather only as an indication of relatively low amounts of melanin) have nerdy pseudo intellectual fun with one another, when left unsupervised. On the other hand, truly "white" male humans, otherwise known as albinos, are known to have magic powers.

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              @Horace said in Jordan Peterson Update:

              zoologists have often noted that male humans with white skin (note "white" here is not to be taken literally, but rather only as an indication of relatively low amounts of melanin) have nerdy pseudo intellectual fun with one another, when left unsupervised.

              Oh, I thought they were just missing their sisters.

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                Klaus
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                #31

                Nice LOTR reference in one of the comments.

                Now he's Jordan the white.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  I like Jordan Peterson a lot, but something is strange about the Petersons. Such extreme ways of living. I'm not sure I'd trust his daughter. She's venturing too much into conspiracy theory land sometimes.

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  #32

                  @Klaus said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                  I like Jordan Peterson a lot, but something is strange about the Petersons. Such extreme ways of living. I'm not sure I'd trust his daughter. She's venturing too much into conspiracy theory land sometimes.

                  Considering the bullshit she had to go through, I give her a pass. But also no, I don't subscribe to her diet tips.

                  I know a lot of people similar to this, though, actually. Folks who have extremely weird and intense food allergies, bizarre health stuff, etc. To me the Petersons don't seem too out there. Just your garden variety out there.

                  Please love yourself.

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                    #33

                    tl;dr: Aqua’s a freak too.

                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      tl;dr: Aqua’s a freak too.

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                      Aqua Letifer
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                      #34

                      @jon-nyc said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                      tl;dr: Aqua’s a freak too.

                      Yeah but not that much.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        89th
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                        Just watched listened to the video during my commute. They kind of meandered around the timeline, but in general it was a major downer to listen to. I can't imagine that type of incessant pain.

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                          Horace
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                          #36

                          Pain is non-negotiable without some sort of superpower over one's nervous system. One can be forgiven for not wanting to go on.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            I'm going to attend one of his shows this year, together with a friend.

                            His tour is quite impressive. Around 70 venues, many of them already fully booked.

                            I wonder how much he makes with a tour like that. If we assume an average ticket price of $60 and an average capacity of 2,500 and around 70 events, that would yield an income of around 10 million $. If he can keep just 1/3 of that, it would be a sizeable sum.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @klaus said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                              I'm going to attend one of his shows this year, together with a friend.

                              His tour is quite impressive. Around 70 venues, many of them already fully booked.

                              I wonder how much he makes with a tour like that. If we assume an average ticket price of $60 and an average capacity of 2,500 and around 70 events, that would yield an income of around 10 million $. If he can keep just 1/3 of that, it would be a sizeable sum.

                              Let me know how the show goes. When he starts doing Exodus I'll be buying a ticket.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                #39

                                We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

                                For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

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                                • KlausK Klaus

                                  We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

                                  For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

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                                  Aqua Letifer
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                                  @klaus said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                  We'll make a trip to Slovenia for the show and combine it with a biking trip. That'll be fun - Slovenia is quite beautiful.

                                  For some reason, his tour avoids Western (Continental) Europe like the plague.

                                  His books were translated for those countries, but he's never toured there. So my understanding is that this tour is for those places.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                    xenon
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                                    #41

                                    I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                                    He’s really started to roll in the mud.

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                                      I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                                      He’s really started to roll in the mud.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
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                                      @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                      I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                                      He’s really started to roll in the mud.

                                      He has, but look at all the weird shit he's had to put up with:

                                      • spends a year almost dying
                                      • gets shadow-cancelled at Cambridge
                                      • gets turned into a Marvel supervillain

                                      Oh and all of this, everything you do, is made very public and there's a community the size of Los Angeles out there on the internets who want you taken the fuck down, all day, every day.

                                      How perfectly would you handle shit like that? In that context I'm amazed he hasn't gone full Britney.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                        I enjoy his podcasts, but he needs to lay off Twitter.

                                        He’s really started to roll in the mud.

                                        He has, but look at all the weird shit he's had to put up with:

                                        • spends a year almost dying
                                        • gets shadow-cancelled at Cambridge
                                        • gets turned into a Marvel supervillain

                                        Oh and all of this, everything you do, is made very public and there's a community the size of Los Angeles out there on the internets who want you taken the fuck down, all day, every day.

                                        How perfectly would you handle shit like that? In that context I'm amazed he hasn't gone full Britney.

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                                        xenon
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                                        @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                                        But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                                        Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                                        It’s bad for him.

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                                        • X xenon

                                          @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                                          But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                                          Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                                          It’s bad for him.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #44

                                          @xenon said in Jordan Peterson Update:

                                          @aqua-letifer agreed, he’s had to put up with the worst sort of bad-faith attacks that public figures can get thrown at them.

                                          But - the attacks would almost never hold up when viewed in their full context and Jordan’s ability to explain his position.

                                          Now he’s getting into the business of incendiary sound bites. This gives his detractors more ammo.

                                          It’s bad for him.

                                          Agreed. I'm just not surprised is all.

                                          Please love yourself.

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