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Could Trump drop out?

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #24

    blaming the culture is just as good. Why not be seen to go down fighting an encroaching mob? There has been glory in such things forever. But there is no glory in quitting and I don't think we'll see it. I wouldn't be totally surprised if he half wants to lose a well fought battle though.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • George KG George K

      @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

      James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

      Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

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      #25

      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

      Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

      “ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • George KG George K

        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

        LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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        #26

        @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

        LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

        64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #27

          Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • MikM Mik

            @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

            @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

            Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

            LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

            64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by
            #28

            @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

            @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

            @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

            Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

            LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

            64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

            It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • MikM Mik

              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

              LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

              64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

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              George K
              wrote on last edited by George K
              #29

              @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

              LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

              64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

              You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

              Never mind - Jon explained it....

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • MikM Mik

                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

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                xenon
                wrote on last edited by xenon
                #30

                @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  George K
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  The woman has balls, I must admit.

                  Jon would hit that, by the way.

                  (Whatever happened to Tulsi, by the way?)

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                    LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                    64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                    You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

                    Never mind - Jon explained it....

                    MikM Offline
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                    #32

                    @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                    LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                    64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                    You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

                    Never mind - Jon explained it....

                    Yeah I see that now. Been helping daughter get packed and clean for the move. We drive to Winston Salem tomorrow. Driving a 16' box truck. Ugh. Luckily the truck is one way.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                      Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                      Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

                      MikM Offline
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                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #33

                      @xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                      Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                      Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

                      So you'd vote for your little sister?

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                        Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                        Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

                        So you'd vote for your little sister?

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                        xenon
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        @Mik I’d def consider it - but not because we may have shared relatives in the old country.

                        Many prominent Punjabi politicians in Canada. Many are atrocious.

                        It’s moot though. I can’t vote.

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #35

                          because you're not white?

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #36

                            😁

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

                              “ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”

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                              @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader

                              My goal is to use indefatigable during a work meeting this week.

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                              • MikM Mik

                                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #38

                                @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                Could set up a Haley vs Harris female battle in 2024, if Harris is picked by Biden.

                                In other words, "If I had ham I could have ham 'n eggs if I had eggs."

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                                  @jon-nyc Cool info about Polk. Didn't know all that, pretty cool. Next you'll tell me he also invented Polka!

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @jon-nyc Cool info about Polk. Didn't know all that, pretty cool. Next you'll tell me he also invented Polka!

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                                    @89th check this out:

                                    https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Man-Transformed-Presidency-America/dp/0812976746/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=polk+president&qid=1593482182&sr=8-1

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                                      64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                                      It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.

                                      CopperC Offline
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                                      Copper
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                                      #41

                                      @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                                      64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                                      It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.

                                      I made the same post

                                      Then I deleted it because of the confusing parenthesis

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @89th check this out:

                                        https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Man-Transformed-Presidency-America/dp/0812976746/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=polk+president&qid=1593482182&sr=8-1

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                                        89th
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #42

                                        @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                        @89th check this out:

                                        https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Man-Transformed-Presidency-America/dp/0812976746/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=polk+president&qid=1593482182&sr=8-1

                                        👍

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #43

                                          I too am a history buff and so I will buy and read that book. I will find it extremely interesting and I will learn many interesting facts about history, which I am interested in because I am a history buff.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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