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Could Trump drop out?

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  • George KG George K

    @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

    LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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    • George KG George K

      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

      Yeah but he dropped out to avoid a loss in the primary.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

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        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

        James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

          James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

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          @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

          James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

          Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            I wouldn't see Trump quitting when he can just lose and blame voter fraud.

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              blaming the culture is just as good. Why not be seen to go down fighting an encroaching mob? There has been glory in such things forever. But there is no glory in quitting and I don't think we'll see it. I wouldn't be totally surprised if he half wants to lose a well fought battle though.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • George KG George K

                @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

                Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

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                @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

                “ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • George KG George K

                  @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                  Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                  LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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                  @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                  @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                  Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                  LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                  64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                      64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

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                      @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                      64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                      It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                        LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                        64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

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                        @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                        LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                        64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                        You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

                        Never mind - Jon explained it....

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

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                          @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                          Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                          Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                          Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

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                            The woman has balls, I must admit.

                            Jon would hit that, by the way.

                            (Whatever happened to Tulsi, by the way?)

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                              LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                              64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                              You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

                              Never mind - Jon explained it....

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                              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                              LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                              64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                              You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.

                              Never mind - Jon explained it....

                              Yeah I see that now. Been helping daughter get packed and clean for the move. We drive to Winston Salem tomorrow. Driving a 16' box truck. Ugh. Luckily the truck is one way.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                                Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

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                                @xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                                Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

                                So you'd vote for your little sister?

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • MikM Mik

                                  @xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                  @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                  Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                  Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).

                                  Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.

                                  So you'd vote for your little sister?

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                                  @Mik I’d def consider it - but not because we may have shared relatives in the old country.

                                  Many prominent Punjabi politicians in Canada. Many are atrocious.

                                  It’s moot though. I can’t vote.

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                                    because you're not white?

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      😁

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                        Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

                                        “ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                        Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader

                                        My goal is to use indefatigable during a work meeting this week.

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

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                                          @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                          Could set up a Haley vs Harris female battle in 2024, if Harris is picked by Biden.

                                          In other words, "If I had ham I could have ham 'n eggs if I had eggs."

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