Could Trump drop out?
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@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.
wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 23:47 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.
Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:17 last edited by
I wouldn't see Trump quitting when he can just lose and blame voter fraud.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:21 last edited by
blaming the culture is just as good. Why not be seen to go down fighting an encroaching mob? There has been glory in such things forever. But there is no glory in quitting and I don't think we'll see it. I wouldn't be totally surprised if he half wants to lose a well fought battle though.
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@jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.
Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:47 last edited by@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.
“ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”
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@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:51 last edited by@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:52 last edited by
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
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@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:59 last edited by@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.
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@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:09 last edited by George K@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.Never mind - Jon explained it....
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:10 last edited by xenon
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).
Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:11 last edited by
The woman has balls, I must admit.
Jon would hit that, by the way.
(Whatever happened to Tulsi, by the way?)
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@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.Never mind - Jon explained it....
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:35 last edited by@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
You're right, of course. In my haste, I was referencing the '68 election when he didn't run.Never mind - Jon explained it....
Yeah I see that now. Been helping daughter get packed and clean for the move. We drive to Winston Salem tomorrow. Driving a 16' box truck. Ugh. Luckily the truck is one way.
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@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).
Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:36 last edited by@xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).
Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.
So you'd vote for your little sister?
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@xenon said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
Fun fact (for me at least) - she's part of my small ethnic tribe (there are only about ~25M of us around the world).
Her name means "little one" in Punjabi, just coincidentally happens to be a good English name too.
So you'd vote for your little sister?
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:40 last edited by
because you're not white?
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:42 last edited by
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@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.
“ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:51 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:
Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader
My goal is to use indefatigable during a work meeting this week.
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wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 01:54 last edited by
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.
Could set up a Haley vs Harris female battle in 2024, if Harris is picked by Biden.
In other words, "If I had ham I could have ham 'n eggs if I had eggs."
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@jon-nyc Cool info about Polk. Didn't know all that, pretty cool. Next you'll tell me he also invented Polka!
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@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.
wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 02:29 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:
@George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:
@Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:
Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?
LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.
64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.
It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.
I made the same post
Then I deleted it because of the confusing parenthesis