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Could Trump drop out?

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    Loki
    wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:24 last edited by
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    The news breathlessly talked about him refusing to leave office. I think the odds would be greater that he punted early if the trends continue.

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      Horace
      wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:28 last edited by
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      Who replaces him on the ticket if he drops out? If it's someone more electable I'd be all for it.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:30 last edited by
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        I would imagine Pence.

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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        • H Horace
          29 Jun 2020, 20:28

          Who replaces him on the ticket if he drops out? If it's someone more electable I'd be all for it.

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          xenon
          wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:32 last edited by
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          @Horace said in Could Trump drop out?:

          Who replaces him on the ticket if he drops out? If it's someone more electable I'd be all for it.

          Mitt Romney. L'mao

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            Catseye3
            wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:43 last edited by
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            Ach, Horace said on the ticket. Sorry.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              Catseye3
              wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:49 last edited by
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              The Independent: "Donald Trump may drop out of the 2020 presidential race if he believes he has no chance of winning, a Republican Party operative reportedly told Fox News.

              The claim comes in a report in the president’s favourite news outlet that cites a number of GOP insiders who are concerned about Mr Trump’s re-election prospects amid abysmal polling numbers."

              https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-2020-us-election-drop-out-fox-news-republican-a9592036.html

              89th makes a good point that he'd sooner leave than be beaten.

              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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              • 8 89th
                29 Jun 2020, 19:16

                I don't think he'd drop out, although I do think he'd prefer the "Trump left" over the "Trump lost" headline.

                I do think he'll close the gap, probably swap out Pence with a new VP to get some life, and hope the economy improves (with COVID decreasing) by Sept/Oct. I think he's also helped by BLM and the cancel culture lunacy associated with it.

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                Rainman
                wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 20:50 last edited by
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                @89th said in Could Trump drop out?:

                I don't think he'd drop out, although I do think he'd prefer the "Trump left" over the "Trump lost" headline.

                I do think he'll close the gap, probably swap out Pence with a new VP to get some life, and hope the economy improves (with COVID decreasing) by Sept/Oct. I think he's also helped by BLM and the cancel culture lunacy associated with it.

                That's something I never would have considered, picking a new VP.
                An energetic VP would or could be a plus, as Trump's stamina seems to be decreasing for whatever reason.
                A clean and articulate black female (inserting Biden's perspective of Obama). Perfect! Use the Left's strategy against itself. It certainly wouldn't bother most Republicans to have a POC VP.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 22:27 last edited by
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                  Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

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                    29 Jun 2020, 22:27

                    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

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                    George K
                    wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 22:32 last edited by
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                    @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                    LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • H Horace
                      29 Jun 2020, 20:28

                      Who replaces him on the ticket if he drops out? If it's someone more electable I'd be all for it.

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                      Copper
                      wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 23:43 last edited by
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                      @Horace said in Could Trump drop out?:

                      Who replaces him on the ticket if he drops out? If it's someone more electable I'd be all for it.

                      A black woman and a gay donkey would get elected in a heartbeat

                      cnn would see to that

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                      • G George K
                        29 Jun 2020, 22:32

                        @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                        Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                        LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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                        Copper
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                        • G George K
                          29 Jun 2020, 22:32

                          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                          LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 23:44 last edited by
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                          @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                          LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                          Yeah but he dropped out to avoid a loss in the primary.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            29 Jun 2020, 22:27

                            Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

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                            jon-nyc
                            wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 23:46 last edited by
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                            @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                            Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                            James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              29 Jun 2020, 23:46

                              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                              James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 29 Jun 2020, 23:47 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                              Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                              James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

                              Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Kincaid
                                wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:17 last edited by
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                                I wouldn't see Trump quitting when he can just lose and blame voter fraud.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:21 last edited by
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                                  blaming the culture is just as good. Why not be seen to go down fighting an encroaching mob? There has been glory in such things forever. But there is no glory in quitting and I don't think we'll see it. I wouldn't be totally surprised if he half wants to lose a well fought battle though.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • G George K
                                    29 Jun 2020, 23:47

                                    @jon-nyc said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                    @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                    Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                    James Polk was the best. He accomplished all he wanted to in his first term and refused a second even when he easily could have had it.

                                    Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:47 last edited by
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                                    @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                    Yes. A much under-appreciated POTUS. Good, honorable man.

                                    “ Historians have praised Polk for having met during his four-year term every major domestic and foreign policy goal he had set. After a negotiation fraught with risk of war, he reached a settlement with Great Britain over the disputed Oregon Country, the territory for the most part being divided along the 49th parallel. Polk achieved a sweeping victory in the Mexican–American War, which resulted in the cession by Mexico of nearly all the American Southwest. He secured a substantial reduction of tariff rates with the Walker tariff of 1846. The same year, he achieved his other major goal, re-establishment of the Independent Treasury system. Historian Thomas A. Bailey says that during the Mexican war, "Polk was an energetic and indefatigable war leader, and he emerged, partly through rare good luck, with uninterrupted success. He kept the sole direction of the war in his own hands, from grand strategy to the procurement of mules."[1] True to his campaign pledge to serve only one term, Polk left office in 1849 and returned to Tennessee where he died three months after leaving the White House.”

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                    • G George K
                                      29 Jun 2020, 22:32

                                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:51 last edited by
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                                      @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                      Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                      LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                                      64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Mik
                                        wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:52 last edited by
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                                        Please oh please run Nikki Haley. Please.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        • M Mik
                                          30 Jun 2020, 00:51

                                          @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                          LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                                          64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 30 Jun 2020, 00:59 last edited by
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                                          @Mik said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          @George-K said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          @Klaus said in Could Trump drop out?:

                                          Is there historic precedent for a president dropping out after 4 years?

                                          LBJ didn't seek a 2nd elected term (though he finished JFK's term and was reelected for his 1st term) in the 1968 elections.

                                          64, but who's counting. Nixon won in 68.

                                          It’s confusing with the parentheses but George is saying he didn’t seek the second term in 68, which is correct.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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