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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

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    The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

    Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

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    Loki
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    #57

    @jon-nyc said in The workout thread:

    @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

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    The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

    Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

    That is VO2max. There are charts by age you can google. Mine says it puts me at the age of a 20 year old. Really low resting heart rate too. I had a vascular study of my carotid, heart and leg veins via ultrasound after a friend in shape died of a stroke in his sleep. Probably worth it as you age.

    VO2 max is considered the best measurement of aerobic fitness.

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      jon-nyc
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      #58

      How do they estimate it without measuring O2?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • OptimisticO Optimistic

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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        Rich
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        #59

        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

        @Rich
        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

        I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

        I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

        So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

        Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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          @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

          @Rich
          That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

          Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

          I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

          Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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          Rich
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          @Loki said in The workout thread:

          @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

          @Rich
          That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

          Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

          I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

          Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

          Truthfully, I definitely run my long runs harder than I need to....and though it feels comfortable, probably harder than I should.

          If you have a source for good training plans--I'm all ears!

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            Klaus
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            #61

            @Rich that is a fantastic time for such a long run. I wish I could do that. If I'd run with that tempo, the run would be over for me after a single mile. Running a half-marathon is low-key on my agenda, but I wouldn't even dream of something faster than 2h. I'm surprised, though, that you burned only 1349 Cal. You must have a rather low body weight.

            I sent you a follow request on Strava.

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            • RichR Rich

              @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

              @Rich
              That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

              Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

              I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

              I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

              I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

              So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

              Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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              Optimistic
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              #62

              @Rich
              Yes, I was a little surprised the defer option was offered--and very thankful! They are also offering the option to run the race virtually and send you all the swag you would have gotten this year, but I wasn´t really feeling that option.

              I bet switching to roads has helped you with your faster pace. I love the trail running, but it definitely encourages a much more leisurely pace as you jump over roots and and logs and such.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                #63

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                So I have 3 pulse/Ox devices at home; 1 for me, 1 I'm mailing to my folks, 1 as a bonus they mailed me by mistake. I used all 3 to compare against the FitBit. Turns out the latter under-reports somewhat, especially with higher numbers; it was off by about 10bpm when I was closer to a maximum. The 3 pulse/Ox devices were all consistent. So looks like I'm at about 170 instead of 165.

                Either way I don't much care. The actual numbers don't matter to me. I'm just trying to get them to increase.

                Please love yourself.

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                  MainerMikeBrown
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                  #64

                  I haven't taken part in any sports in years, to be honest.

                  I used to play baseball back in high school during the 1990's. I was terrible at it.

                  I don't have any talent for football and basketball either.

                  And my tennis and bowling skills are nothing special at best.

                  lol

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                    Klaus
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                    #65

                    That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                    I bought a power meter today.

                    Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                    • KlausK Klaus

                      That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

                      I bought a power meter today.

                      Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

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                      mark
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                      #66

                      @Klaus which power meter? Link?

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                      • KlausK Offline
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                        Klaus
                        wrote on last edited by Klaus
                        #67

                        @mark : 4iiii Precision Power Meter.
                        https://shop.4iiii.com/collections/power-meters/products/precision-factory-install

                        There was an offer to grab one for 250 Euro. I couldn't resist anymore.

                        It's a 105 crank. I have an Ultegra groupset, but the Ultegra one would have been 100 Euros more and the only difference is 3 grams of weight or something.

                        Can't wait to try it. I love data.

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                          mark
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                          #68

                          3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                          • markM mark

                            3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

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                            Klaus
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                            #69

                            @mark I don't care all that much about weight or "aero". I care about primarily about fitness gains and only secondarily about speed gains paid with money 🙂

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                              Klaus
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                              #70

                              First test. My FTP seems to be in the "sucks" to "looser" range. I'll have to test more thoroughly. And then on to structured training rides.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #71

                                Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

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                                Please love yourself.

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                                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                  Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                  I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

                                  F8FEB50D-43C3-43C7-B1EC-EA74C3891125.jpeg

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                                  Klaus
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                                  #72

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                  Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

                                  I have a kind of "default" route that takes about 75min. The nice thing about driving the same route often is that you have a benchmark to compare with. (That said, with a powermeter it should be easier to compare efforts across different routes).

                                  But when I have more time, I often pick new and longer routes. I often pick routes from Komoot. If it weren't for Corona, I'd also ride with a couple of other guys every few weeks.

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                                    Klaus
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                                    #73

                                    Another short test ride from this evening. My goal was to keep an average above 230W.

                                    It's really rather different to train with a power meter.

                                    It's like having a slave driver who permanently whips you whenever you taper off with your power. I like it.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      Sounds pretty cool. I still haven't made any progress on my jump-rope, sadly. Maybe I'm just too clumsy.

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                                      Aqua Letifer
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #74

                                      @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                      Sounds pretty cool. I still haven't made any progress on my jump-rope, sadly. Maybe I'm just too clumsy.

                                      @Klaus Nonsense, my friend! You can be an oafish, goofy white guy and still make it work for you. Observe:

                                      Link to video

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                        Klaus
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                                        I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

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                                          Aqua Letifer
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                                          #76

                                          @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                                          I don't quite understand how you manage to do it with such tiny jumps. Unless I jump at least a foot high or something I'm going to trip.

                                          Nah, just practice. And the above is total crap, I have shin splints right now so "form" is right out the window.

                                          Please love yourself.

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