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Doctor Phibes · wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 17:51

I've used a chest strap and find that it pretty much agrees with the Fitbit.

I think the best way to determine your actual maximum heart rate is to work out until you're just on the verge of a coronary, but don't actually have one, so you'll know for next time. If you do have one, you'll know for a short period of time with absolute certainty what the maximum is, but that shows Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle in action, since the measurement will have modified your maximum heart rate, possibly to zero.

Optimistic · 12 Apr 2020, 18:24

@Rich
That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast Registration will defer to next year.

Loki · 13 Apr 2020, 10:04

@Optimistic said in The workout thread:

@Rich
That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast Registration will defer to next year.

Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

jon-nyc · 12 Apr 2020, 20:01

@Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

Aqua Letifer · wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 19:08

Part of it is, yeah.

Loki · wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 20:01

@jon-nyc said in The workout thread:

@Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

That is VO2max. There are charts by age you can google. Mine says it puts me at the age of a 20 year old. Really low resting heart rate too. I had a vascular study of my carotid, heart and leg veins via ultrasound after a friend in shape died of a stroke in his sleep. Probably worth it as you age.

VO2 max is considered the best measurement of aerobic fitness.

jon-nyc · wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 20:26

How do they estimate it without measuring O2?

Rich · 13 Apr 2020, 12:49

@Optimistic said in The workout thread:

@Rich
That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast Registration will defer to next year.

I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

Rich · L Loki 12 Apr 2020, 18:24

@Loki said in The workout thread:

@Optimistic said in The workout thread:

@Rich
That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast Registration will defer to next year.

Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

Truthfully, I definitely run my long runs harder than I need to....and though it feels comfortable, probably harder than I should.

If you have a source for good training plans--I'm all ears!

Klaus · wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 10:08

@Rich that is a fantastic time for such a long run. I wish I could do that. If I'd run with that tempo, the run would be over for me after a single mile. Running a half-marathon is low-key on my agenda, but I wouldn't even dream of something faster than 2h. I'm surprised, though, that you burned only 1349 Cal. You must have a rather low body weight.

I sent you a follow request on Strava.

Optimistic · R Rich 13 Apr 2020, 09:49

@Rich
Yes, I was a little surprised the defer option was offered--and very thankful! They are also offering the option to run the race virtually and send you all the swag you would have gotten this year, but I wasn´t really feeling that option.

I bet switching to roads has helped you with your faster pace. I love the trail running, but it definitely encourages a much more leisurely pace as you jump over roots and and logs and such.

Aqua Letifer · wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:26

So I have 3 pulse/Ox devices at home; 1 for me, 1 I'm mailing to my folks, 1 as a bonus they mailed me by mistake. I used all 3 to compare against the FitBit. Turns out the latter under-reports somewhat, especially with higher numbers; it was off by about 10bpm when I was closer to a maximum. The 3 pulse/Ox devices were all consistent. So looks like I'm at about 170 instead of 165.

Either way I don't much care. The actual numbers don't matter to me. I'm just trying to get them to increase.

MainerMikeBrown · wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 00:39

I haven't taken part in any sports in years, to be honest.

I used to play baseball back in high school during the 1990's. I was terrible at it.

I don't have any talent for football and basketball either.

And my tennis and bowling skills are nothing special at best.

lol

Klaus · 16 Apr 2020, 11:10

That looks pretty sweet, @Aqua-Letifer .

I bought a power meter today.

Massive amount of useless graphs about mediocre cycling upcoming!

mark · K Klaus 16 Apr 2020, 08:40

@Klaus which power meter? Link?

Klaus · wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 11:40

@mark : 4iiii Precision Power Meter.
https://shop.4iiii.com/collections/power-meters/products/precision-factory-install

There was an offer to grab one for 250 Euro. I couldn't resist anymore.

It's a 105 crank. I have an Ultegra groupset, but the Ultegra one would have been 100 Euros more and the only difference is 3 grams of weight or something.

Can't wait to try it. I love data.

mark · 16 Apr 2020, 13:42

3 grams? We used to kill to save that much much weight. lol

Klaus · M mark 16 Apr 2020, 11:55

@mark I don't care all that much about weight or "aero". I care about primarily about fitness gains and only secondarily about speed gains paid with money

Klaus · wrote on 16 Apr 2020, 13:43

First test. My FTP seems to be in the "sucks" to "looser" range. I'll have to test more thoroughly. And then on to structured training rides.

Aqua Letifer · 16 Apr 2020, 15:16

Nice, Klaus! Do you always ride the same route, or do you tend to tool around?

I'm learning more about jump-rope shit. Different routines work different muscles, which only interests me insofar as I can cycle through them without stopping. I can already go about six times longer than I could a month ago, but it's my legs holding me back now. Learning how to fix that.

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