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What will the Speaker vote look like?

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    Axtremus
    wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 23:57 last edited by
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    Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

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      89th
      wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 00:33 last edited by
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      McCarthy is getting fewer votes each time, basically. Time to call it a loss and let another conservative take it, hopefully without giving up too much to the extreme right.

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        Jolly
        wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:00 last edited by
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        Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

        Believe it or not.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          6 Jan 2023, 01:00

          Heard Boebert on the radio today...the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

          Believe it or not.

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          George K
          wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:31 last edited by
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          @Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

          the name floating around that might work is Zeldin.

          I've heard that rumor as well. However, there are some who think that the Speaker of the House must be a member of the House of Representatives. I'm not sure if that's a constitutional requirement, however.

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          https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/the-speaker-has-to-come-from-the-house/

          Matthew Franck addressed this question in NRO the last time McCarthy was having trouble getting to the Speakership, in 2015, arguing that the Constitution implies that a Speaker has to be a member of the House.

          Among his points: Accepting a non-member as Speaker would open the door to letting a Cabinet member be Speaker, contrary to the aim of the Constitution’s incompatibility clause. I’d add that you would also then have the possibility of a Speaker who, unlike executive officers, judges, and the actual members of Congress, had not taken an oath to the Constitution.

          Franck ended one of his posts on the subjects this way:

          "The customary understanding that the speaker must be a member comports with commonsense, natural use of language in context. If you sponsored a boys’ football team and said to them “choose your captain,” it is hardly likely that they would go outside their ranks to make their choice. They would be understanding you to require them to choose, from among themselves, the first among equals to stand forth and speak for the whole team. And they’d be right. It is just possible that one wiseacre would be tempted to try out “parlor-trick textualism,” as I called it, an overworked literalism that defeats the purpose of what was required of those trusted with a decision. “How about my little sister?” But you would be justified in saying, “Pipe down. You know what I meant."

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            George K
            wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 01:40 last edited by
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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 02:16 last edited by
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              11 losses in 3 days :

              https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

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              • A Axtremus
                6 Jan 2023, 02:16

                11 losses in 3 days :

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 02:22 last edited by
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                @Axtremus said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/mccarthy-makes-concessions-heading-third-day-house-voting-speaker-rcna64097

                And what have the 20 holdouts conceded and compromised on?

                Bupkis.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 13:05 last edited by
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 13:15 last edited by
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                    Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      George K
                      wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 13:17 last edited by George K 1 Jun 2023, 13:18
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                      Is there a deal?

                      Ah...never mind.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        6 Jan 2023, 13:15

                        Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...

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                        Axtremus
                        wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 14:37 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                        Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...

                        Why do you think the "90%" figure is correct or that it is important?

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                          6 Jan 2023, 13:15

                          Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...

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                          89th
                          wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 15:10 last edited by
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                          @Jolly said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                          Y'all do realise that 90% of the country doesn't know this is happening or doesn't care...

                          That is probably true. Heck, I didn't care until about yesterday when I started to google what this was all about.

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                          • A Axtremus
                            5 Jan 2023, 23:57

                            Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

                            https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 16:46 last edited by
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                            @Axtremus said in What will the Speaker vote look like?:

                            Op-ed/analysis on why McCarthy won't ask Democrats for help to be elected Speaker:

                            https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/politics/mccarthy-speaker-vote-stalemate-what-matters/index.html

                            I am guess that the moderate Republican and moderate Democrat have more in common with each other than the moderate Republican and extreme Republican.

                            No reason it would not work, but like @jon said, if they agreed, then probably a primary by an extreme member

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                              mark
                              wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 18:02 last edited by
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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 18:08 last edited by
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                                Lol

                                You were warned.

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                                  6 Jan 2023, 18:02

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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                                  @mark LOL

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 18:36 last edited by
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                                      6 Jan 2023, 18:36

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                                      xenon
                                      wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 18:47 last edited by
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                                      @mark lol

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                                        mark
                                        wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 19:23 last edited by
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                                        Saw this on FB.

                                        Kevin McCarthy has been rejected almost as many times as Lauren Boebert failed the GED.

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                                          jon-nyc
                                          wrote on 6 Jan 2023, 20:03 last edited by
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                                          Lol

                                          You were warned.

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