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  • D Doctor Phibes
    19 Dec 2022, 18:08

    @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

    @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

    Well, it is from Better Bull Crap, so they picked the more extreme elements to generate eyeballs.

    Sadly, not all British news organizations can stand up to the journalistic rigour of your usual go-to publication, The Daily Mail.

    Tell ya what, beefeater, the two organizations resemble each other more than you will admit, differing only in viewpoint and snot tracks.

    You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 20:10 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

    @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

    @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

    Well, it is from Better Bull Crap, so they picked the more extreme elements to generate eyeballs.

    Sadly, not all British news organizations can stand up to the journalistic rigour of your usual go-to publication, The Daily Mail.

    Tell ya what, beefeater, the two organizations resemble each other more than you will admit, differing only in viewpoint and snot tracks.

    You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

    Nah, you're living in the past. It ain't your father's BBC.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

    D 1 Reply Last reply 19 Dec 2022, 21:05
    • X xenon
      19 Dec 2022, 19:24

      America was conceived by several who were Christian - but they explicitly left almost all reference to the divine out of its framing.

      That seems to very much have been done on purpose.

      The people in the article are wrong. They have every right to advocate for policies in line with their Christian beliefs - but the government should not be Christian.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 20:16 last edited by
      #19

      @xenon said in Those Scary Christians:

      America was conceived by several who were Christian - but they explicitly left almost all reference to the divine out of its framing.

      That seems to very much have been done on purpose.

      The people in the article are wrong. They have every right to advocate for policies in line with their Christian beliefs - but the government should not be Christian.

      Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

      Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • J Jolly
        19 Dec 2022, 20:10

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

        Well, it is from Better Bull Crap, so they picked the more extreme elements to generate eyeballs.

        Sadly, not all British news organizations can stand up to the journalistic rigour of your usual go-to publication, The Daily Mail.

        Tell ya what, beefeater, the two organizations resemble each other more than you will admit, differing only in viewpoint and snot tracks.

        You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

        Nah, you're living in the past. It ain't your father's BBC.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 21:05 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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        @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Those Scary Christians:

        @Jolly said in Those Scary Christians:

        Well, it is from Better Bull Crap, so they picked the more extreme elements to generate eyeballs.

        Sadly, not all British news organizations can stand up to the journalistic rigour of your usual go-to publication, The Daily Mail.

        Tell ya what, beefeater, the two organizations resemble each other more than you will admit, differing only in viewpoint and snot tracks.

        You clearly have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

        Nah, you're living in the past. It ain't your father's BBC.

        You should look up the oversight system. The BBC operates under a charter, and is regulated. The Daily Mail isn't.

        Also, you should try watching and listening to some of their programming rather than believing what you read about them in places like the Daily Mail, which has long hated it almost as much as it hates pretty much everything else modern.

        Is the BBC perfect? Obviously not. They suffer from bias, and some level of liberal elitism. I find their toadying to the Royals quite tedious, too - but lots of media people do that in England. But to compare them to a rag like the Mail is ridiculous.

        I was only joking

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        • J Jolly
          19 Dec 2022, 20:16

          @xenon said in Those Scary Christians:

          America was conceived by several who were Christian - but they explicitly left almost all reference to the divine out of its framing.

          That seems to very much have been done on purpose.

          The people in the article are wrong. They have every right to advocate for policies in line with their Christian beliefs - but the government should not be Christian.

          Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

          Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

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          Renauda
          wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 23:28 last edited by Renauda
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          @Jolly

          Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

          Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

          Christian Western European political thought also produced at least a few undesirable, if not thoroughly reprehensible, ~isms that shaped much of the 20th century global political landscape.

          Elbows up!

          D 1 Reply Last reply 19 Dec 2022, 23:33
          • R Renauda
            19 Dec 2022, 23:28

            @Jolly

            Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

            Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

            Christian Western European political thought also produced at least a few undesirable, if not thoroughly reprehensible, ~isms that shaped much of the 20th century global political landscape.

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            Doctor Phibes
            wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 23:33 last edited by Doctor Phibes
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            @Renauda said in Those Scary Christians:

            @Jolly

            Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

            Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

            Christian Western European political thought also produced at least a few undesirable, if not wholly reprehensible,isms that shaped much of 20th century.

            Doesn’t Russia claim to hold traditional Christian values? He’s certainly got the church pandering to his regime, and they’re notoriously ‘traditional’ with their attitudes to homosexuality, for example. Some people on the American right were at one point implying that Putin was defending traditional Christianity.

            I was only joking

            R 1 Reply Last reply 19 Dec 2022, 23:35
            • D Doctor Phibes
              19 Dec 2022, 23:33

              @Renauda said in Those Scary Christians:

              @Jolly

              Perhaps, but the essential underpinnings of our government and way of life are Western European and Christian.

              Are would you rather have a government like Jordan, India, China or Thailand?

              Christian Western European political thought also produced at least a few undesirable, if not wholly reprehensible,isms that shaped much of 20th century.

              Doesn’t Russia claim to hold traditional Christian values? He’s certainly got the church pandering to his regime, and they’re notoriously ‘traditional’ with their attitudes to homosexuality, for example. Some people on the American right were at one point implying that Putin was defending traditional Christianity.

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              Renauda
              wrote on 19 Dec 2022, 23:35 last edited by Renauda
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              @Doctor-Phibes

              Yes, Russia considers itself the Third Rome.

              Elbows up!

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                Jolly
                wrote on 20 Dec 2022, 00:39 last edited by
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                Russia is a corruption of the Third Rome.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J Jolly
                  20 Dec 2022, 00:39

                  Russia is a corruption of the Third Rome.

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                  Renauda
                  wrote on 20 Dec 2022, 02:00 last edited by
                  #25

                  @Jolly

                  Not to worry, Russia thinks the US is a corruption of all morality.

                  Elbows up!

                  G 1 Reply Last reply 20 Dec 2022, 02:04
                  • R Renauda
                    20 Dec 2022, 02:00

                    @Jolly

                    Not to worry, Russia thinks the US is a corruption of all morality.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 20 Dec 2022, 02:04 last edited by
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                    @Renauda said in Those Scary Christians:

                    @Jolly

                    Not to worry, Russia thinks the US is a corruption of all morality.

                    So do some forum members (whom I won't name, of course).

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • J Jolly
                      20 Dec 2022, 00:39

                      Russia is a corruption of the Third Rome.

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                      Renauda
                      wrote on 20 Dec 2022, 02:05 last edited by Renauda
                      #27

                      @Jolly

                      What I meant to say is that I have my doubts that in third place Moscow is any more or less corrupt than Rome and Constantinople in the timeline of history.

                      Elbows up!

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