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  • HoraceH Online
    HoraceH Online
    Horace
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    New job for my wife, started today, to her surprise. She thought she was going in for a second interview, but they put a job offer on the table in front of her, backdated to yesterday as her start date. It's a private bilingual school for kids "12 months to 12th grade", founded by a Chinese lady and principaled by a French lady. The second language used by the school is French, but the job requirements for the Executive Assistant job list fluency in Chinese. I'm not sure where the Chinese will be used, since the position reports to the French lady and the Chinese owner isn't as involved. The list of job duties on the offer letter was two pages long. The school hasn't opened yet, but it's already chaos. She is driven to do a good job in any given situation, so I'm worried about the toll this will take. But she knows she can quit any time. For her two bosses, the owner and the principal, the business is their life. It'll be important to establish boundaries with bosses who don't have normal work/life priorities. They aren't paying her enough to care as much as they do.

    Education is extremely important.

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      Could be dicey. sounds like Frenchette needs a go between to Chinette.

      Hard to envision it lasting, but there’s another job around the corner for her I’m sure.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        Could be dicey. sounds like Frenchette needs a go between to Chinette.

        Hard to envision it lasting, but there’s another job around the corner for her I’m sure.

        HoraceH Online
        HoraceH Online
        Horace
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        @Mik said in New job:

        Could be dicey. sounds like Frenchette needs a go between to Chinette.

        Hard to envision it lasting, but there’s another job around the corner for her I’m sure.

        Yes she's highly ambivalent. She wants to be a UX designer anyway. I am all but encouraging her to quit this one.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Is the Chinese owner from Taiwan or from mainland China?

          I get the sense that some Chinese schools in the US (e.g. the Confucius Institute) have ties to the CCP and are now under the US government's microscope. But the schools owned/run/funded by Taiwanese are still generally OK in the eyes of the US government.

          In any case, congratulations to the Mrs. on her new job.

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          • 89th8 Online
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            What languages does your wife speak?

            If she is open to working remotely, I know some UX designers in Northern Virginia who might have positions to fill, btw. Even I still work for a Virginia company, I just have to hide my new Minnesota accent when I'm on calls, so that folks don't get jealous of my tropical views outside.

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            • 89th8 89th

              What languages does your wife speak?

              If she is open to working remotely, I know some UX designers in Northern Virginia who might have positions to fill, btw. Even I still work for a Virginia company, I just have to hide my new Minnesota accent when I'm on calls, so that folks don't get jealous of my tropical views outside.

              HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              @89th said in New job:

              What languages does your wife speak?

              If she is open to working remotely, I know some UX designers in Northern Virginia who might have positions to fill, btw. Even I still work for a Virginia company, I just have to hide my new Minnesota accent when I'm on calls, so that folks don't get jealous of my tropical views outside.

              Yes, remote work is the plan. She has a cozy office and everything, with Ikea hand crafted bookshelves and desk. If you know of any opportunities for an entry-level UX designer, that would be awesome. Right now she has a Google certificate and a portfolio, but no work experience.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @89th said in New job:

                What languages does your wife speak?

                If she is open to working remotely, I know some UX designers in Northern Virginia who might have positions to fill, btw. Even I still work for a Virginia company, I just have to hide my new Minnesota accent when I'm on calls, so that folks don't get jealous of my tropical views outside.

                Yes, remote work is the plan. She has a cozy office and everything, with Ikea hand crafted bookshelves and desk. If you know of any opportunities for an entry-level UX designer, that would be awesome. Right now she has a Google certificate and a portfolio, but no work experience.

                89th8 Online
                89th8 Online
                89th
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                @Horace Cool, I'll check around. Will send PM

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
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                  She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                  Education is extremely important.

                  George KG AxtremusA Doctor PhibesD jon-nycJ 4 Replies Last reply
                  • HoraceH Horace

                    She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

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                    George K
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                    @Horace said in New job:

                    opening the school at 7:20...and closing the school at 5:30.... I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later.

                    What?

                    I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                    I agree. I assume this is 5 days a week too.

                    Non-starter, IMO. Close to $19 an hour or so. Pass.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

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                      @Horace said in New job:

                      Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                      Reassure her that she has a high-earning husband who will support her in not taking any job that does not meet her expectation. Some chicks dig this sort of chivalry.

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #11

                        Better yet tell her there are multiple ways to pay the rent.

                        lol j/k

                        Pro tip: Never tell your wife that. It should be implied

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                          Doctor PhibesD Online
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                          @Horace said in New job:

                          She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                          The only reason to do that would be if you absolutely love the job, which is probably not the case.

                          Mrs. Phibes worked as an administration person at a local Montessori pre-school (where our kids went) for a while, and she really enjoyed it, but not enough in the end for the money they were paying, and she didn't have anything like the long hours your wife is being asked to work.

                          I was only joking

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                          • George KG Offline
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                            Opening the school at a certain time and closing it 10 hours later might not be a big deal...if she has no responsibilities, or few responsibilities between those hours.

                            I doubt that's the case, but...

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                              jon-nycJ Online
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                              @Horace said in New job:

                              She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                              Though in fairness it's probably ~180 days/yr

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                @Horace said in New job:

                                She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                                Though in fairness it's probably ~180 days/yr

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                                @jon-nyc said in New job:

                                @Horace said in New job:

                                She learned today that her duties include opening the school at 7:20, to allow the teachers in at 7:30, and closing the school at 5:30, to lock up after the last teachers and students leave. I imagine this will often turn into 6:00 or later. I think this job is a no-go. Over 10 hours a day in the office, Monday through Friday, is nonsense for 48k/year.

                                Though in fairness it's probably ~180 days/yr

                                I don't think so. At best the hours would relax a little when school was not in session.

                                Education is extremely important.

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