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  • L LuFins Dad
    15 Apr 2023, 20:35

    Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

    I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 00:38 last edited by
    #223

    @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

    Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

    I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

    Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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    • M Mik
      15 Apr 2023, 22:40

      @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      DeSantis is running. Make no mistake.

      Kelly Conway said the other day, that the media frenzy over Trump gave him $3B worth of advertising in 2016. Wonder what all this current infatuation is worth?

      Seriously? Ignore the polls for now. Nobody has attacked Trump yet, and he is vulnerable to lose some of his base once it starts getting hammered home that Trump allowed Fauci to dictate the general response over the first few months. Start running the video of Trump recommending using scarves if you have no masks…Run the video of him promoting and lauding the vaccines and the shutdowns. Remember the news conference when he stated that no Governor can open up their state without his authority? They can have a field day with that.

      Commercials showing the incomplete wall and the showing that Mexico did not in fact pay for it. How did that swamp draining go? Insert picture of Hunter and the Big Guy on Air Force One.

      Hey, notice all the problems with the FBI over the last few years? False Flags, planted FBI informants stoking trouble at the January 6th protests, and don’t forget who was investigating parents at school board meetings? Who appointed the FBI Director, again? Oh, that’s right, Lame Donald. So sad.

      You thought draining the swamp was going to be easy?

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      Doctor Phibes
      wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 00:48 last edited by Doctor Phibes
      #224

      @Mik said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

      You thought draining the swamp was going to be easy?

      It always surprises me quite how many Lord Farquaad references there are to be made about the guy. If they'd made Shrek after Trump became President, there'd have been an outcry about the pernicious politicization of children's movies.

      I was only joking

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      • J jon-nyc
        16 Apr 2023, 00:38

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

        I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

        Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:02 last edited by
        #225

        @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

        I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

        Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

        @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

        Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

        I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

        Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

        Oh, I agree. That was the second part of my statement. But I do believe Lame Donald (so sad) is vulnerable to having a significant enough part of his base turned. They are still seething over policies that he at least stood aside for if not actually promoted…

        The Brad

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          Mik
          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:12 last edited by
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          It will be interesting to see how he handles the vaccine deniers.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • J Jolly
            15 Apr 2023, 17:52

            Just looked at some GOP numbers from Kentucky that showed the indictment by Bragg made Republican voters 40% more likely to vote for him.

            Get ready...😱😱

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            Copper
            wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 01:29 last edited by
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            Mr. Trump did not make this photoshop.

            Mr. Biden commissioned it for the Oval Office.

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 02:17 last edited by
              #228

              I agree with @LuFins-Dad and @jon-nyc .

              The best candidate the Democrat could have in 2024 election is President Trump.

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              • X xenon
                15 Apr 2023, 20:49

                Why do you seem to want Trump, @Jolly

                Is it his electability or governing chops?

                Pendulums are a thing. I don’t think we’ll get moderate on the other side of that one.

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                Jolly
                wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:14 last edited by
                #229

                @xenon

                I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • J jon-nyc
                  16 Apr 2023, 00:38

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                  Biden didn’t beat Trump. It was +50% of the electorate voting “not Trump”.

                  I see no reason to think that will be different in 2024.

                  Agreed. But Biden will still be “not Trump” in 2024.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:16 last edited by
                  #230

                  @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    16 Apr 2023, 03:16

                    @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:19 last edited by
                    #231

                    @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                    @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                    Not Trump

                    The Brad

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                    • J Jolly
                      16 Apr 2023, 03:14

                      @xenon

                      I could be persuaded to support DeSantis, but if Trump can navigate the legal rapids, I don't see DeSantis making a run at him...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                      A moderate Republican? A RINO? Won't make it through the primaries, especially in the South.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:19 last edited by xenon
                      #232

                      @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                      ...Unless Trump does something really stupid.

                      If he unzipped and helicoptered that would somehow be rationalized as draining the swamp.

                      Politics is now literally reality TV, and he’s the funnest character. Adults should not want him.

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        16 Apr 2023, 03:19

                        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                        Not Trump

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                        Jolly
                        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 03:26 last edited by
                        #233

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                        @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                        Not Trump

                        Good, then vote for Biden.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • J Jolly
                          16 Apr 2023, 03:26

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                          Not Trump

                          Good, then vote for Biden.

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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 11:21 last edited by
                          #234

                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                          @jon-nyc I watched Biden on the news today. The man can barely walk. By 2024, he may not be able to. The American public has elected a guy in a wheelchair before, but not a senile guy in a wheelchair...

                          Not Trump

                          Good, then vote for Biden.

                          That’s what you’re doing by voting for Lame Donald in the primary. A vote for Lame Donald is essentially a vote for Biden.

                          The Brad

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 14:56 last edited by LuFins Dad
                            #235

                            Poor Lame Donald…

                            The Brad

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                            • L LuFins Dad
                              21 Apr 2023, 14:56

                              Poor Lame Donald…

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 15:02 last edited by
                              #236

                              @LuFins-Dad

                              Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                21 Apr 2023, 15:02

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 15:07 last edited by
                                #237

                                @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                @LuFins-Dad

                                Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                                If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.

                                I was only joking

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                                • D Doctor Phibes
                                  21 Apr 2023, 15:07

                                  @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                  @LuFins-Dad

                                  Thing is about Trumps true fans, is they’d never quite believe it. Or if they did, they’d prefer the noble defeat.

                                  If, by noble defeat, you mean go on extended rants about election fraud and some vast leftist conspiracy, then you're spot on.

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 15:11 last edited by
                                  #238

                                  @Doctor-Phibes

                                  Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.

                                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  • J jon-nyc
                                    21 Apr 2023, 15:11

                                    @Doctor-Phibes

                                    Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 15:18 last edited by
                                    #239

                                    @jon-nyc said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                    Yes of course, but they’d be noble rants indeed

                                    If by 'noble', you mean 'like King George III during his "eccentric" phase', then yes, you're once again spot-on.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 15:42 last edited by
                                      #240

                                      He's my favorite.

                                      Link to video

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Jolly
                                        wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 16:17 last edited by
                                        #241

                                        As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • J Jolly
                                          21 Apr 2023, 16:17

                                          As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

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                                          LuFins Dad
                                          wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 16:29 last edited by
                                          #242

                                          @Jolly said in Trump vs. DeSantis:

                                          As best I can tell, currently Trump is beating the shit out of DeSantis...

                                          https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/us/2024_republican_presidential_nomination-7548.html#polls

                                          That may be. And a vote in the primary for Trump is a vote for Biden in the general election…

                                          By the way, Lame Donald is currently pro Budweiser, pro Disney, and is starting to lose his pro-life support.

                                          Ben Shapiro has commented that Trump will run from the Center-Left side of the Republican platform. How will that play with the base?

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-sparks-maga-fury-bud-light-comments-1794625

                                          https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2023/04/19/trump-criticizes-desantis-on-disney-with-economic-disaster-in-florida/70129695007/

                                          https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-abortion-2024-president-81373a7c8523db24f928d713ff90aa31

                                          The Brad

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